PGM: MiracleMan 15

[Bill Robinson]

I overpaid for this, but was tired of waiting for the "right" deal. The seller advertised it as VF-NM, but said he wasn't an expert. The back is flawless, the book feels newsstand fresh and the colors are perfect. Snow white pages. This one was really taken care of. The only flaw evident in the scan is a slightly softened bottom left corner. In hand it has two very minor non color breaking spine dings just above KMM's forehead. No staple stress at all. Please let me know what you think.

 

 

 

[ROBTOTHEC]

Should be a 9.2/9.4. I lean towards 9.4

[marvelcollector]

At least a 9.2, assuming BC is consistent...

[mschmidt]

Looks like a 9.2.

 

You didn't overpay, btw - I just sold a worse copy than this on ebay for $110 :thumbsup:

 

For raw copies of MM #15 the price has stayed relatively firm over the years - it's one of those books that people want to read, which is why you'll often see raw copies sell for more than their CGC 9.2 & 9.4 counterparts.

[Bill Robinson]

Looks like a 9.2.

 

You didn't overpay, btw - I just sold a worse copy than this on ebay for $110 :thumbsup:

 

For raw copies of MM #15 the price has stayed relatively firm over the years - it's one of those books that people want to read, which is why you'll often see raw copies sell for more than their CGC 9.2 & 9.4 counterparts.

 

Good to know! Thanks.

[Bill Robinson]

So it may not be worth it to CGC this one for resale, eh?

[mschmidt]

No, definitely not.

[Bosco685]

Don't send it to CGC. I want to read it first.

 

 

 

So it may not be worth it to CGC this one for resale, eh?

[divad]

Nice book - I think you should slab it, you might be surprised.

 

It's impossible to accurately grade a book without the back cover, and difficult enough to grade it from scans. If it looks nice in hand, it may just make the grade. I am surprised at the advice above.

[mschmidt]

Nice book - I think you should slab it, you might be surprised.

 

It's impossible to accurately grade a book without the back cover, and difficult enough to grade it from scans. If it looks nice in hand, it may just make the grade. I am surprised at the advice above.

 

Last CGC 9.4 copy of this book sold for $113 - raw copies routinely sell for $100 on ebay :shrug:

[divad]

 

 

Q: is the light ink transfer next to the "MM" on the FC a common printing defect for this issue?

[Mr 9.8]

 

 

Q: is the light ink transfer next to the "MM" on the FC a common printing defect for this issue?

I've seen a bunch of MM #15's and I've only seen this type of PD once before.

[Bill Robinson]

 

Q: is the light ink transfer next to the "MM" on the FC a common printing defect for this issue?

I've seen a bunch of MM #15's and I've only seen this type of PD once before.

 

I am sure this has been discussed ad infinitum, but PD's : Does it / Should it affect the grade? My understanding is that CGC doesn't take off for most of them. My lcs definitely does, however. Your thoughts?

[mschmidt]

 

Q: is the light ink transfer next to the "MM" on the FC a common printing defect for this issue?

I've seen a bunch of MM #15's and I've only seen this type of PD once before.

 

I am sure this has been discussed ad infinitum, but PD's : Does it / Should it affect the grade? My understanding is that CGC doesn't take off for most of them. My lcs definitely does, however. Your thoughts?

 

CGC doesn't take off for production defects - if it is, in fact, a production defect commonly associated with a specific book. This isn't, though - it's just ink transfer from another book, and would be treated as any other defect by CGC.

[RockMyAmadeus]

I overpaid for this, but was tired of waiting for the "right" deal. The seller advertised it as VF-NM, but said he wasn't an expert. The back is flawless, the book feels newsstand fresh and the colors are perfect. Snow white pages. This one was really taken care of. The only flaw evident in the scan is a slightly softened bottom left corner. In hand it has two very minor non color breaking spine dings just above KMM's forehead. No staple stress at all. Please let me know what you think.

 

 

 

If the book is as nice as you say, and the "ink smear" is really a smear, and not transfer (which could be taken off, if done properly), then it's probably a 9.6, with an outside chance at a 9.8.

 

But only if the book is as nice as you state. The corner will be the deciding factor.

[divad]

I overpaid for this, but was tired of waiting for the "right" deal. The seller advertised it as VF-NM, but said he wasn't an expert. The back is flawless, the book feels newsstand fresh and the colors are perfect. Snow white pages. This one was really taken care of. The only flaw evident in the scan is a slightly softened bottom left corner. In hand it has two very minor non color breaking spine dings just above KMM's forehead. No staple stress at all. Please let me know what you think.

 

 

 

If the book is as nice as you say, and the "ink smear" is really a smear, and not transfer (which could be taken off, if done properly), then it's probably a 9.6, with an outside chance at a 9.8.

 

But only if the book is as nice as you state. The corner will be the deciding factor.

 

This is why I would be tempted to send it in, based on how it looks to you in hand, not what we say here.

[divad]

 

Q: is the light ink transfer next to the "MM" on the FC a common printing defect for this issue?

I've seen a bunch of MM #15's and I've only seen this type of PD once before.

 

I am sure this has been discussed ad infinitum, but PD's : Does it / Should it affect the grade? My understanding is that CGC doesn't take off for most of them. My lcs definitely does, however. Your thoughts?

 

CGC doesn't take off for production defects - if it is, in fact, a production defect commonly associated with a specific book. This isn't, though - it's just ink transfer from another book, and would be treated as any other defect by CGC.

 

On closer inspection, I'm leaning toward "smear" vs. transfer. I misspoke when I originally pointed it out. Take a look at the smear along the horizontal black border line . . .

[RockMyAmadeus]

It's almost certainly a smear, at least the "smear" parts...it could definitely be a "smear/transfer" combo.

 

Hard to tell in pics. But at least some of it is smear.