retrothecollector Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Last night was a wonderfully paced sequence of dramatic elements to highlight human emotions. It was pragmatism vs. humanity. It was a calculated morality play. What's best is most people may not realize it until later when they realize they were being pushed and pulled by each of the characters. It was a debate, a dance, with each taking the lead. It's rare that any show lets you get this deep into the motivations of its characters. Kudos to WD for going that deep. How about some kudos to Jericho for some of the things he was going on about on Talking Dead? He really brought his A game, I thought. I would've never guessed he'd be that insightful and engaging about the show. Who knew? He's great. I loved his appearances on Attack of the Show back in the day. Also, he really needed to bring his A game after last week's debacle with MM Yes that was funny what he said in the beginning of the show, about MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrothecollector Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Don't get me wrong I love the show. It has it's moments. But sometimes the show has a lackluster performance. There needs to be more interaction/action with other people/groups. Like with the last season. There was a couple dull and slow ones, but it really kept my interest. This whole virus thing and getting meds is boring. Yea they have been doing some sweet walker kills. I like when they plan infiltrating other communities. That keeps my interest. Like what's happening in the book. Being sick and going to the corner store to get meds is stuff we already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awax Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Don't get me wrong I love the show. It has it's moments. But sometimes the show has a lackluster performance. There needs to be more interaction/action with other people/groups. Like with the last season. There was a couple dull and slow ones, but it really kept my interest. This whole virus thing and getting meds is boring. Yea they have been doing some sweet walker kills. I like when they plan infiltrating other communities. That keeps my interest. Like what's happening in the book. Being sick and going to the corner store to get meds is stuff we already know. Life is boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colicab Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Not sure anyone brought this up. Maybe Carol will be a founding member of: The "TV" Hunters?? That neighborhood Rick and Carol were in made me think of those silly cannibals a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrothecollector Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Don't get me wrong I love the show. It has it's moments. But sometimes the show has a lackluster performance. There needs to be more interaction/action with other people/groups. Like with the last season. There was a couple dull and slow ones, but it really kept my interest. This whole virus thing and getting meds is boring. Yea they have been doing some sweet walker kills. I like when they plan infiltrating other communities. That keeps my interest. Like what's happening in the book. Being sick and going to the corner store to get meds is stuff we already know. Life is boring. But not when your listening to Motorhead!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 My favorite part of the episode last night: Daryl being threatened by Bob (reaching for his gun) and Daryl stepping to Bob and mad dogging him eye to eye, face to face, until Bob turns away. Classic animal confrontation. Interesting you mention that aspect of the show. One of my colleagues is a fan as well and is a psychologist, so we talk about a lot of psycho-babble stuff. I made the observation with regards to Carol that the group is like being in the animal kingdom. If an alpha is not present, another group member will step up and be the alpha, just like in the animal kingdom. And yes it was awesome when Daryl got in his face lol Reminded me of when Wyatt Earp got in the Billy Bob's face and slapped him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toytastik Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Maybe Carol Finds Abe's Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakeintheashes Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Maybe Carol Finds Abe's Camp. The show will make a trend of new characters finding old ones just wandering around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzilla Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 He's great. I loved his appearances on Attack of the Show back in the day. Also, he really needed to bring his A game after last week's debacle with MM Man I miss Attack of the Show and Kevin Periera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awax Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Don't get me wrong I love the show. It has it's moments. But sometimes the show has a lackluster performance. There needs to be more interaction/action with other people/groups. Like with the last season. There was a couple dull and slow ones, but it really kept my interest. This whole virus thing and getting meds is boring. Yea they have been doing some sweet walker kills. I like when they plan infiltrating other communities. That keeps my interest. Like what's happening in the book. Being sick and going to the corner store to get meds is stuff we already know. Life is boring. But not when your listening to Motorhead!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 My favorite part of the episode last night: Daryl being threatened by Bob (reaching for his gun) and Daryl stepping to Bob and mad dogging him eye to eye, face to face, until Bob turns away. Classic animal confrontation. Interesting you mention that aspect of the show. One of my colleagues is a fan as well and is a psychologist, so we talk about a lot of psycho-babble stuff. I made the observation with regards to Carol that the group is like being in the animal kingdom. If an alpha is not present, another group member will step up and be the alpha, just like in the animal kingdom. And yes it was awesome when Daryl got in his face lol Reminded me of when Wyatt Earp got in the Billy Bob's face and slapped him "Go ahead, Skin that smokewagon and we'll see what happens!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colicab Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 My favorite part of the episode last night: Daryl being threatened by Bob (reaching for his gun) and Daryl stepping to Bob and mad dogging him eye to eye, face to face, until Bob turns away. Classic animal confrontation. Interesting you mention that aspect of the show. One of my colleagues is a fan as well and is a psychologist, so we talk about a lot of psycho-babble stuff. I made the observation with regards to Carol that the group is like being in the animal kingdom. If an alpha is not present, another group member will step up and be the alpha, just like in the animal kingdom. And yes it was awesome when Daryl got in his face lol Reminded me of when Wyatt Earp got in the Billy Bob's face and slapped him All time favorite Western next to the Good, the bad, and the Ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaFon Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Question. Did anybody else catch when they are in the vet clinic and deciding whether to go backward through the zombies or open the door of zombies they mention something about the ones behind them being infected? I did not understand that, unless I missed something, isn't everybody "infected"? Or are they talking about the flu that's going through the prison, and if so why were those infected? Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 yea, they were talking about the new flu (those zombies had bleeding eyes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 It was the flu. They were bleeding from the eyes like the flu victims. That's the symptom they were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaFon Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Interesting. I missed that. So the virus did come from the dead, hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I don't know if they started it but they are certainly spreading it. I'm not sure how a virus is replicating through the cellular structure of someone whose cells are dead, but then again they are walking around in defiance of all laws of science, so I am not going to be too picky on my science as it's applied to this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have as much dead-love as anyone. But anyone who watched yesterdays episode and thought it was good was surely watching a different ep. For the first time, the collective stupidity of the 2 year survivors made me wonder how any of them lived this long. Its the same rubbish every week - regarding decision making. How many times will they hit up a store/shop/warehouse and leave with a small bag of stuff. I couldn't get round Rick leaving dozens of fresh tomatoes behind - and taking only 4 in a bag - wtf!! I know it's nitpicking, but if you HAVE to include it in a scene - do it RIGHT !!! Tell me why they didn't go straight back mob-handed to that supermarket from 2 weeks ago? Half the Zombies were already dead, and the rest probably wandered off. The place had everything they needed, and they knew exactly where it was. For me, just lazy writing. And the Carol decision - pointless and dumb. Killing 2 already dead people (she didn't btw) - and that's it? Gone? Yet Rick lets 2 noobs wander to certain death, and there are no double standards there? I love the comic, but for the first time actually wonder if the TV show (whilst still very watchable) is in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 trust me, the TV is FAR from being in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The story is a a morality play, created to display the basest of human emotions, and to investigate and reveal who people are when the conventions of polite society are stripped away and the nerves of what it is to be human are laid bare. Worrying about how individual decisions, made by characters in a world created to explore the limits of humanity, are "right or wrong" is to, literally, miss the forest for the tomatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...