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Where's the Community of Sense?

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Apparently it's somewhere in Australia, resting with this David J Larkin cat.

 

He has far too much time on his hands.

 

 

 

Existential (Experiential) Determinism

 

The doctrine of existential determinism recognises that antecedents are essential to identity, that is, integral to 'who we are'--defining factors integral to our 'being'--rather than extraneous influences or characteristics of an 'external agency'.

 

Although we cannot choose our primitive state(s) of being, once capable of interaction, we influence and are influenced (in turn) by our environment; in the process, we appropriate these influences (or antecedents) and our 'being' evolves. It is critical to emphasise that, as cognitive creatures, we appropriate these influences--they cease to be external to our 'being'. These appropriated antecedents represent the complete or collective cause--and importantly, can be viewed as a unique collective-subconscious. As we 'grow', what 'stimulates' or determines our 'response' is a measure of both the immediate extraneous-influence and what we have appropriated; and what we have appropriated 'defines' us as individuals. To strip-away the antecedents would be to render our 'being' barren, that is, to strip-away the antecedents would be to strip-away the characteristics that render and identify us as unique cognitive-entities.

 

Therefore, when we act, 'we' act--when we choose, 'we' choose. We choose in the context of our 'being' and the context of our 'being' is inseparable from our appropriated antecedents. To regard those antecedents as 'external' is nonsense. This in turn makes a nonsense of 'what will happen will happen regardless of what we do'--which is not to say that events aren't determined, however, it does not follow that events are either predetermined or (consequently) predictable. Furthermore, it is only within this context of appropriation that the notion of 'self caused' becomes credible--but not in the sense of 'without cause'.

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I'm going to have that translated into a language I don't speak to see if it makes any more sense.

 

You can probably understand this better:

 

Apparentlyway it'sway omewheresay inway Australiaway, estingray

ithway isthay Avidday JAY Arkinlay atcay.

 

Ehay ashay arfay ootay uchmay imetay onway ishay andshay.

 

 

 

Existentialway (Experientialway) Eterminismday

 

Ethay octrineday ofway existentialway eterminismday ecognisesray

atthay antecedentsway areway essentialway otay identityway,

atthay isway, integralway otay 'owhay eway are'WAY--efiningday

actorsfay integralway otay ourway 'eing'bay--atherray anthay

extraneousway influencesway orway aracteristicschay ofway anway

'externalway agency'WAY.

 

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say) ofway eingbay, onceway apablecay ofway interactionway, eway

influenceway andway areway influencedway (inway urntay) ybay

ourway environmentway; inway ethay ocesspray, eway

appropriateway esethay influencesway (orway antecedentsway)

andway ourway 'eing'bay evolvesway. Itway isway iticalcray otay

emphasiseway atthay, asway ognitivecay eaturescray, eway

appropriateway esethay influencesway--eythay easecay otay ebay

externalway otay ourway 'eing'bay. Esethay appropriatedway

antecedentsway epresentray ethay ompletecay orway ollectivecay

ausecay--andway importantlyway, ancay ebay iewedvay asway away

uniqueway ollectivecay-ubconscioussay. Asway eway 'ow'gray,

atwhay 'imulates'stay orway eterminesday ourway 'esponse'ray

isway away easuremay ofway othbay ethay immediateway

extraneousway-influenceway andway atwhay eway avehay

appropriatedway; andway atwhay eway avehay appropriatedway '

efines'day usway asway individualsway. Otay ipstray-awayway

ethay antecedentsway ouldway ebay otay enderray ourway 'eing'bay

arrenbay, atthay isway, otay ipstray-awayway ethay

antecedentsway ouldway ebay otay ipstray-awayway ethay

aracteristicschay atthay enderray andway identifyway usway asway

uniqueway ognitivecay-entitiesway.

 

Ereforethay, enwhay eway actway, 'e'way actway--enwhay eway

oosechay, 'e'way oosechay. Eway oosechay inway ethay ontextcay

ofway ourway 'eing'bay andway ethay ontextcay ofway ourway '

eing'bay isway inseparableway omfray ourway appropriatedway

antecedentsway. Otay egardray osethay antecedentsway asway '

external'WAY isway onsensenay. Isthay inway urntay akesmay away

onsensenay ofway 'atwhay illway appenhay illway appenhay

egardlessray ofway atwhay eway o'day--ichwhay isway otnay otay

aysay atthay eventsway aren'tway eterminedday, oweverhay, itway

oesday otnay ollowfay atthay eventsway areway eitherway

edeterminedpray orway (onsequentlycay) edictablepray.

Urthermorefay, itway isway onlyway ithinway isthay ontextcay

ofway appropriationway atthay ethay otionnay ofway 'elfsay

aused'cay ecomesbay ediblecray--utbay otnay inway ethay ensesay

ofway 'ithoutway ause'cay.

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"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some . . . people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children"

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"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some . . . people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children"

 

lol but you are not nearly as hot as she was so FAIL.

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"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some . . . people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children"

 

lol but you are not nearly as hot as she was so FAIL.

 

He's a close second.

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I always thought a Comic Convention was the best place to get a community of scents (shrug)

 

Reminds me of a joke.

What's long, green, and smells like bacon?

Kirmit the Frog's finger. hm

 

 

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I always thought a Comic Convention was the best place to get a community of scents (shrug)

 

Reminds me of a joke.

What's long, green, and smells like bacon?

Kirmit the Frog's finger. hm

 

 

The joke is funnier if you say "smells like ham." Please try to keep up.

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I always thought a Comic Convention was the best place to get a community of scents (shrug)

 

Reminds me of a joke.

What's long, green, and smells like bacon?

Kirmit the Frog's finger. hm

 

 

The joke is funnier if you say "smells like ham." Please try to keep up.

 

Depends on where he's had his finger. :gossip:

 

 

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