TOS 39 CGC 9.4 sells for 150K

[COI]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

[VintageComics]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

 

I've gotten strong prices for some fairly big keys and they are not buying these books.

 

[Flash105]

I don't think they will be set in auctions. Guy owns hard to find book, not really wanting to part with it. He has no interest in an auction, he is not even thinking about selling. Other guy wants said book but it is not showing up in auctions. Other guy starts calling all the dealers. One dealer says he knows where one is but it will take a big number. Other guy says whatever it takes. Deal done.

[COI]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

 

I've gotten strong prices for some fairly big keys and they are not buying these books.

 

 

Strong prices for keys are one thing, record-setting 6 and 7 figure direct sales with a discernable pattern is another thing entirely. If prices are strong for you, it likely has to do with the bajillion -e comic movies that are just around the corner.

 

 

[VintageComics]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

 

I've gotten strong prices for some fairly big keys and they are not buying these books.

 

 

Strong prices for keys are one thing, record-setting 6 and 7 figure direct sales with a discernable pattern is another thing entirely. If prices are strong for you, it likely has to do with the bajillion -e comic movies that are just around the corner.

 

 

 

I've gotten record setting prices in the 5 and 6 figure range for books and it had nothing to do with movies. They are just all trending upward.

 

I think it started with a combination of Overstreet Guide prices spiking in July as well as the big GA sales early last year.

 

Once the GA books took off last year ( and across the course of the year with keys like Action #1, Detective #27, Pep# 22 selling several times over), the guide was validated.

 

In order for the relationship to remain realistic between GA and SA keys I believed SA keys would begin to rise. It's a natural relationship. Always has been. Many keys have been steadily rising for the past 6 months in most grades anyway.

 

Bring on a few more record sales (Archie #1 at $167,000, JIM #83 CGC 9.2 for $82K and $75K, B+B #28 CGC 9.0 for $30,000, AF #15 CGC 9.6 for $1.1MIL) and all of a sudden you have a trend that keys across the board are selling for multiples again.

 

Add a dash of spring (hello sunshine) and con season and people are buying.

 

It's a rising tide and it seems to be happening across the board, not just at one level where you would expect a single, specific buyer to stay at. It's happening at many price points and it seems to trickle down to most books.

 

 

[tth2]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

I doubt it`s one person. It COULD have one person that made some of the initial headline-generating buys, which could have sparked competition with some other deep-pocketed buyers who realized they needed to up their game to snag the books they wanted. I`ve seen that pattern repeated many times through the years.

 

Pretty soon "$100K is the new $10K" is going to be outmoded and will have to be replaced with $200K is the new $10K". Amazing.

[NewWorldOrder]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

I doubt it`s one person. It COULD have one person that made some of the initial headline-generating buys, which could have sparked competition with some other deep-pocketed buyers who realized they needed to up their game to snag the books they wanted. I`ve seen that pattern repeated many times through the years.

Pretty soon "$100K is the new $10K" is going to be outmoded and will have to be replaced with $200K is the new $10K". Amazing.

 

Well I wouldn't go that far.

 

Strong sales, but I do not think these sales are shocking except for the Avengers 4 CGC 9.6.

 

The AF 15 $1.1 million sale just proved what one collector/multi-millionaire would pay. Not reflective of the overall market value of the book.

[COI]

When I see a couple of these nutty prices duplicated, I'll subscribe to your newsletter. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, and there isn't a reason why we can't both be right. Keys may be on a viagra-like rise, and all these books may also be going to the same guy.

 

Here's a question: why must there be any correlation between GA prices and SA prices, when in most ways they aren't at all comparable?

[COI]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

I doubt it`s one person. It COULD have one person that made some of the initial headline-generating buys, which could have sparked competition with some other deep-pocketed buyers who realized they needed to up their game to snag the books they wanted. I`ve seen that pattern repeated many times through the years.

 

Pretty soon "$100K is the new $10K" is going to be outmoded and will have to be replaced with $200K is the new $10K". Amazing.

 

I dunno, maybe. But when you look at the sales I mentioned above and consider that we know for a fact that three of the books went to the same guy, it isn't really a stretch to think that a single collector with deep pockets is going on a rampage to fill some holes.

[NewWorldOrder]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

I doubt it`s one person. It COULD have one person that made some of the initial headline-generating buys, which could have sparked competition with some other deep-pocketed buyers who realized they needed to up their game to snag the books they wanted. I`ve seen that pattern repeated many times through the years.

 

Pretty soon "$100K is the new $10K" is going to be outmoded and will have to be replaced with $200K is the new $10K". Amazing.

 

I dunno, maybe. But when you look at the sales I mentioned above and consider that we know for a fact that three of the books went to the same guy, it isn't really a stretch to think that a single collector with deep pockets is going on a rampage to fill some holes.

 

Andrew did anyone tell you were put on this earth to turn a profit and drink straight vodka.

[oakman29]

 

hearsay is more like it.

 

 

Meaning that you're the mystery buyer and the chances of them seeing any money would therefore be nonexistent? :shrug:

[VintageComics]

When I see a couple of these nutty prices duplicated, I'll subscribe to your newsletter. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, and there isn't a reason why we can't both be right. Keys may be on a viagra-like rise, and all these books may also be going to the same guy.

 

I think it is possible that one strong buyer can inspire the market, like Tim alluded to.

 

Here's a question: why must there be any correlation between GA prices and SA prices, when in most ways they aren't at all comparable?

 

Because Spidey is just as popular as Supes and Batman and there is a relationship to maintain.

 

All the other keys fall into a ranking after the big 3.

 

The gap between GA and SA books has narrowed for several reasons. The popularity of AF #15 is one of them. The other is the fact that the 20 year span between Action #1 and FF #1 is not as large as it used to be, relatively speaking.

 

They are all just old comics now.

 

 

[COI]

The new key price explosion continues...from book to book.

 

Amazing.

 

Unless it's the same guy setting all the records--which I suspect you already believe to be the case.

 

I don't believe at all that it's one person.

 

I had a gut feeling last year that keys were due for another pop when the guide listed them last July with hefty increases. I began buying as many as I could afford after that. Here we are, right on target.

 

(thumbs u

 

I do. I think that's much more plausible. Avengers 4 9.6 for 100K; Avengers 1 9.4 for 100K; AF 15 9.6 for 1 Mil; JIM 83 + X-Men 1 for 100K; TOS 39 for 150K.

 

You see keys going up, I see someone scratching a Marvel key itch.

I doubt it`s one person. It COULD have one person that made some of the initial headline-generating buys, which could have sparked competition with some other deep-pocketed buyers who realized they needed to up their game to snag the books they wanted. I`ve seen that pattern repeated many times through the years.

 

Pretty soon "$100K is the new $10K" is going to be outmoded and will have to be replaced with $200K is the new $10K". Amazing.

 

I dunno, maybe. But when you look at the sales I mentioned above and consider that we know for a fact that three of the books went to the same guy, it isn't really a stretch to think that a single collector with deep pockets is going on a rampage to fill some holes.

 

Andrew did anyone tell you were put on this earth to turn a profit and drink straight vodka.

 

Some wise dude told me that. I just wish he told me what to buy back in 2001. I'd be turning hella profits now.

[COI]

Because Spidey is just as popular as Supes and Batman and there is a relationship to maintain.

 

All the other keys fall into a ranking after the big 3.

 

The gap between GA and SA books has narrowed for several reasons. The popularity of AF #15 is one of them. The other is the fact that the 20 year span between Action #1 and FF #1 is not as large as it used to be, relatively speaking.

 

They are all just old comics now.

 

Aww c'mon Roy, I need a more complex answer.

 

 

[NewWorldOrder]

 

Andrew did anyone tell you were put on this earth to turn a profit and drink straight vodka.

 

Some wise dude told me that. I just wish he told me what to buy back in 2001. I'd be turning hella profits now.

 

Here is my advice........

 

Buy "raw" books & get 9.6/9.8's out of them to then sell them to HG people who have to have the uber best. Then take your profit to which you can now enjoy your life by wearing Prada shirts, travel the world, and be happy with SA CGC 8.5 w/WP copies of that same issue you just sold in 9.6/9.8.

 

Sell comic book commodities and keep good looking eye appeal VF+ comic book respectability.

 

Basically I do not believe in using my own money to buy my comic book collection.

 

[MrBedrock]

why must there be any correlation between GA prices and SA prices, when in most ways they aren't at all comparable?

Because at this point they are all one and the same. It's not like the old days when those terms were originated and golden age stuff was twice as old as silver age stuff. We are now forty years along and all of the books pre-1965 can essentially be lumped together as far as pricing goes. In fact, relatively speaking, silver age has far outpaced golden age price-wise across the board. Consider that you can now put together a complete run of Whiz in 8.0 (a randomly picked cutoff grade based on availability) or better for less than a 9.0 (see above) run of Fantastic Four. Which age is the "golden age"? By the demand I would say it is probably the early 60's. As far as I'm concerned all pre 1965 books are comparable by price. And price jumps on any book from any of those years will have some ramification on some other book from any of those years. A rise in 50s DC war could have some impact on Sgt. Fury prices which could, in turn, affect other second tier Marvel keys, which could affect Timely prices etc. etc. etc.

[VintageComics]

Because Spidey is just as popular as Supes and Batman and there is a relationship to maintain.

 

All the other keys fall into a ranking after the big 3.

 

The gap between GA and SA books has narrowed for several reasons. The popularity of AF #15 is one of them. The other is the fact that the 20 year span between Action #1 and FF #1 is not as large as it used to be, relatively speaking.

 

They are all just old comics now.

 

Aww c'mon Roy, I need a more complex answer.

 

 

 

[COI]

why must there be any correlation between GA prices and SA prices, when in most ways they aren't at all comparable?

Because at this point they are all one and the same. It's not like the old days when those terms were originated and golden age stuff was twice as old as silver age stuff. We are now forty years along and all of the books pre-1965 can essentially be lumped together as far as pricing goes. In fact, relatively speaking, silver age has far outpaced golden age price-wise across the board. Consider that you can now put together a complete run of Whiz in 8.0 (a randomly picked cutoff grade based on availability) or better for less than a 9.0 (see above) run of Fantastic Four. Which age is the "golden age"? By the demand I would say it is probably the early 60's. As far as I'm concerned all pre 1965 books are comparable by price. And price jumps on any book from any of those years will have some ramification on some other book from any of those years. A rise in 50s DC war could have some impact on Sgt. Fury prices which could, in turn, affect other second tier Marvel keys, which could affect Timely prices etc. etc. etc.

 

I tend not to assume correlations unless I can clearly see them, and until recently I never believed there was any correlation between GA sales and SA sales. Obviously I have to change my thinking.

[COI]

Because Spidey is just as popular as Supes and Batman and there is a relationship to maintain.

 

All the other keys fall into a ranking after the big 3.

 

The gap between GA and SA books has narrowed for several reasons. The popularity of AF #15 is one of them. The other is the fact that the 20 year span between Action #1 and FF #1 is not as large as it used to be, relatively speaking.

 

They are all just old comics now.

 

Aww c'mon Roy, I need a more complex answer.

 

 

 

 

Ah, now I totally get it.

[COI]

Basically I do not believe in using my own money to buy my comic book collection.

 

 

Agreed. Problem is, I suck at selling comics. Time to find me a rich wife.