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Frank was always ahead of his time. :)

All joking aside, love vs. duty is going to be a strong theme that will run throughout this entire series. My prediction, while majorly early and pure speculation, is hazel is going to grow up to be a great leader. (Genetically half of each side of the galactic conflict) that will bring this war to an end. She represents overcoming the generations of hatred symbolically, but also, I think, will grow up to play a major role in ending the conflict thats chased her family all over the galaxy. Just listening to the tone of her narration, she's telling the story of how she was born/raised in the midst of this conflict from some point in the future. She's re-telling her past, Which leads us to the question, who's she telling the story to?

Great posts -- hope you stick around. (thumbs u

 

 

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So the prince is gay right? Thats been established?

So he's having a nightmare about heterosexual sex?

This is a pretty awesome book.

The way I view this image is that we (the viewer) are looking up into the monitor (face) from the 'missionary position' at the moment of the (Prince?) Robot's orgasm.

Whether we (the viewer) are male or female is up to debate until the issue arrives.

 

What do you guys see?

 

A schooner.

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A schooner is a sailboat, stupidhead.

 

...and I laugh every time I see that scene. I think I'm going to bust out Mallrats and Clerks tomorrow ( I'm off ) and get over the fact that I can't be in NYC.

 

*slowclap*

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Itsjustryan, I wasnt sure I agreed with you until I noticed that prince robot was naked on the cover and thats a bedsheet behind him. I think you're right. I also looked closer and realized thats alana and marko on his screen kissing.

Interesting.

 

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Ok, so it's definitely Alana and Marko... we got that down.

 

And it's definitely a sheet wrapped around a naked Prince Robot's body.... check.

 

It appears that it's missionary position... ok, gotcha.

 

hm

 

Do you think the issue involves Prince Robot with a male for the first time and discovering that true love transcends any rules of what is right and wrong or how it is "supposed to be"? He finally understands what Alana and Marko have despite the race differences!

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I think the cover might be prince robots first glimpse of what actual love looks like. Realizing that even though he hates alana and marko for what they stand for, that he's secretly envious of them for following their hearts rather than what their society's tell them to do. He of course, realizes this while making love to his wife that he feels nothing for. This doesn't have to be a major realization, but rather a slow brooding and jealousy that builds over time. In his repressed reality, it would only make prince robot hate alana and marko even more.

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I went back and looked through issues 3-6, I think I'm getting a better idea of whats motovating robot IV. When he shoots the stalk, the image on his screen is a baby's rattle, obviously thinking about the news that his wife is pregnant. But the context isnt shown. Maybe its him worrying and being apprehensive, rather than celebrating his wife being pregnant. Again, vaughan contrasting love and duty, alana and marko would do anything for their child, while prince robot IV sees his as a burden.

The other thing I noticed was when his wife told him she was pregnant, she also said to finish the mission because his father wont let him return, even to see the birth, until its done. He responds by calling his father a miserable . Im thinking that his father knew he was gay, but forced him into an arranged marriage to keep the monarchy going. A gay prince would be seen differently by the public, (especially a racist society involved in a species war,) and may have issues producing an heir to the throne. This would explain his hostility towards his father,

The other thing I noticed was in issue 12, when gale (winged dude at the royal party) calls robot IV, he taunts him with "theres a certain someone I'm dying to meet, a royal princess with a disticnct glow about her." But rather than responding about gale hitting on his wife, robot resonds with "are you seriously threatening my wife." Gale says he's just reminding him of the stakes. This might be gale threatenng to "out" prince robots sexual orientation to his wife and the royal family. Using it as blackmail to make prince robot go after alana and marko, or hurry up getting it done. Another possibility is that gale and robot were lovers, and he was threatening to expose the whole thing. This would be a good reason why gale knows prince robots gay in the first place.

This is all speculation at this point, but there are definately dots connecting here, I'm interested to see where this goes and hear all of your opinions on it.

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(thumbs u Maybe that's why it's a static filled image. He IS trying to repress it. Maybe the image on the cover is him with Missus Robot and realizing he wishes he had what Alana and Marko shared and felt.

 

Exactly.

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I went back and looked through issues 3-6, I think I'm getting a better idea of whats motovating robot IV. When he shoots the stalk, the image on his screen is a baby's rattle, obviously thinking about the news that his wife is pregnant. But the context isnt shown. Maybe its him worrying and being apprehensive, rather than celebrating his wife being pregnant. Again, vaughan contrasting love and duty, alana and marko would do anything for their child, while prince robot IV sees his as a burden.

The other thing I noticed was when his wife told him she was pregnant, she also said to finish the mission because his father wont let him return, even to see the birth, until its done. He responds by calling his father a miserable . Im thinking that his father knew he was gay, but forced him into an arranged marriage to keep the monarchy going. A gay prince would be seen differently by the public, (especially a racist society involved in a species war,) and may have issues producing an heir to the throne. This would explain his hostility towards his father,

The other thing I noticed was in issue 12, when gale (winged dude at the royal party) calls robot IV, he taunts him with "theres a certain someone I'm dying to meet, a royal princess with a disticnct glow about her." But rather than responding about gale hitting on his wife, robot resonds with "are you seriously threatening my wife." Gale says he's just reminding him of the stakes. This might be gale threatenng to "out" prince robots sexual orientation to his wife and the royal family. Using it as blackmail to make prince robot go after alana and marko, or hurry up getting it done. Another possibility is that gale and robot were lovers, and he was threatening to expose the whole thing. This would be a good reason why gale knows prince robots gay in the first place.

This is all speculation at this point, but there are definately dots connecting here, I'm interested to see where this goes and hear all of your opinions on it.

PLEASE keep posting!! (worship)

 

Get on over to the Revival thread too while you're at it! :baiting:

 

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The other interesting tidbit I realized after re-reading issue 12 was the cover. Its set up to look like a "suicide king" playing card, with the position they're in and the sword going through robot IV's head, and the images of alana and marko are depicted as corpses. Maybe signifying that although robot IV wants alana and marko dead, that he's really, secretly wanting to end his own existance because he cant bear to be himself in a society that wont accept him for who he is.

His screen showing the "experiencing technichal difficulties" pattern from old TV channels seems to support this too. Prince robot seems to be experiencing some major technical difficulties.

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You're right, looking closer, they both have horns. Could it be marko's parents? Or maybe just dead moonies that were a casualty of the war. Showing that robots hatred for the "moonies" stems from a secret hatred of himself?

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Another possibility is that gale and robot were lovers, and he was threatening to expose the whole thing.

 

That's an interesting theory... I seem to remember reading an interview with Brian & Fiona where Fiona (maybe Brian?) said that Gale was one of the more interesting characters. I always assumed it was due to Gale wielding a yet-unseen power position; certainly knowledge like you describe IS power.

 

I had always took it that Prince Robots screen flashed subconscious thoughts; like a robotic Tourette's syndrome. Did anyone else reach this conclusion or do you think it's conscience thoughts?

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Its hard to tell what the meaningvof his screen images are, it seems like subconscious and concious thoughts sometimes. It could be just whats weighing heaviest on his mind at the moment.

Im starting to think that the gale theory is spot on. The interaction with robot IV seemed strange, familiar, but threatening at the same time. Plus, he's a snappy dresser. That should be a tip off right there. :)

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