New Speculator Market

[THB]

Do you guys really think that with pint runs being so small that it is speculation driving the modern market? I think even if its just in small numbers there are new readers out there. I see someone new every week when i go to my LCS.

[Arsenalherd]

i believe that they are doing smaller print runs on some comics for a reason nowadays, sells out 1st run and makes hype of the title, which makes more fans take notice and then sells out a few more print runs.

[USArmyParatrooper]

I think there's healthy speculation going on. Very few people are buying boxes of off-the-shelf comics, but they might buy 1 or 3 copies of something that might do something. And hell, they're likely to read one of them and perhaps get into the series.

 

I think the speculation today has a negligible affect on overall comic sales, and thus is harmless.

[mrblond4]

As a newish collector, I think, if your simply looking to buy a book and read it, there are no problems. There will more then likely be another printing if the demand is there.now, If your looking for high grade issue first prints, or low print run variants then yes, your going to have to spend a premium to buy those.

[Prince Namor]

i believe that they are doing smaller print runs on some comics for a reason nowadays, sells out 1st run and makes hype of the title, which makes more fans take notice and then sells out a few more print runs.

 

Everything about the market for a publisher is to get as much out of each printing as they can. It makes no business sense to 'short print' a book and give away that revenue to the secondary market in the hopes that it'll benefit the publisher in the long run.

The goal is to get the book into the hands of as many people as possible, NOT create artificial demand by playing keep away. There's too many other options for people to change their mind and spend that money on.

The whole reason publisher's are quick to go to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th prints is to get the book into the hands of those who want to read it and rightfully earn the profits from it, and soften the speculator markets insatiable need to inflate the value of the first prints.

 

[Prince Namor]

I think there's healthy speculation going on. Very few people are buying boxes of off-the-shelf comics, but they might buy 1 or 3 copies of something that might do something. And hell, they're likely to read one of them and perhaps get into the series.

 

I think the speculation today has a negligible affect on overall comic sales, and thus is harmless.

 

That's because you're only looking at it from your own point of view.

[ComicConnoisseur]

As a newish collector, I think, if your simply looking to buy a book and read it, there are no problems. There will more then likely be another printing if the demand is there.now, If your looking for high grade issue first prints, or low print run variants then yes, your going to have to spend a premium to buy those.

You can read just about anything on Comixology now,so why would they need another print run after the intial run?

[Nico Esq]

i believe that they are doing smaller print runs on some comics for a reason nowadays, sells out 1st run and makes hype of the title, which makes more fans take notice and then sells out a few more print runs.

 

Everything about the market for a publisher is to get as much out of each printing as they can. It makes no business sense to 'short print' a book and give away that revenue to the secondary market in the hopes that it'll benefit the publisher in the long run.

The goal is to get the book into the hands of as many people as possible, NOT create artificial demand by playing keep away. There's too many other options for people to change their mind and spend that money on.

The whole reason publisher's are quick to go to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th prints is to get the book into the hands of those who want to read it and rightfully earn the profits from it, and soften the speculator markets insatiable need to inflate the value of the first prints.

 

+1

[MK Ultra]

I think publishers are holding back large quantities of hot books and they are then selling themselves on the secondary market to cash in on big profits. Then doing more printings, with smaller print runs to lather rinse and repeat.

[mrblond4]

As a newish collector, I think, if your simply looking to buy a book and read it, there are no problems. There will more then likely be another printing if the demand is there.now, If your looking for high grade issue first prints, or low print run variants then yes, your going to have to spend a premium to buy those.

You can read just about anything on Comixology now,so why would they need another print run after the intial run?

 

If people are still buying a hard copy, they will print it. there are still a lot of people who don't want to read a book on their computer or tablet although a lot are moving away from the printed page. I mean, if you can get anything on comizology, why are they printing anything in the first place. someone out there is buying them.

[Nico Esq]

I understand why people hate speculation threads after reading some of the terrible ideas posted in this one.

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[400yrs]

I understand why people hate speculation threads after reading some of the terrible ideas posted in this one.

 

Now you are getting it.

[400yrs]

I think publishers are holding back large quantities of hot books and they are then selling themselves on the secondary market to cash in on big profits. Then doing more printings, with smaller print runs to lather rinse and repeat.

 

 

Well this doesn't make any sense at all.

[krighton]

i love a good conspiracy

[MadGenius]

I think publishers are holding back large quantities of hot books and they are then selling themselves on the secondary market to cash in on big profits. Then doing more printings, with smaller print runs to lather rinse and repeat.

 

I believe IDW has done this to a lesser degree on certain "rare" variants. I don't think they sit on a whole warehouse full of these things, but they definitely overprint and then sell them on eBay at a later date.

[Nico Esq]

I understand why people hate speculation threads after reading some of the terrible ideas posted in this one.

 

Now you are getting it.

 

My thread(s) have always had much better discussions (and more interesting arguments/fights for that matter).

[Nico Esq]

Publishers are not reselling comics. Creators are not reselling comics. Publishers are not short printing the first issue of their comic either. I imagine that what is happening is that Image is not over printing an extra 3K-10K copies and going back to print. This is a product of the lower initial print runs. If your selling 100K - 200K issues (like everyone was in the 90s) its not that big of a deal to run an extra 3K - 10K copies.

[NewEnglandGothic]

I understand why people hate speculation threads after reading some of the terrible ideas posted in this one.

 

Now you are getting it.

 

My thread(s) have always had much better discussions (and more interesting arguments/fights for that matter).

Most people are nice in Moderns. They would rather reason first as a form of respect. As someone said in one of your threads before, if you put one of these in Comics General it would be a different story. An unhappy one with loads of sarcasm and boobies (I actually kinda like those parts though ).

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