valiant making a comeback?

[valiantman]

Wizard have started listing Valiant books in their price guide once again and noting them as 'books on the rise'.

 

Is this a good or a bad thing?

If you're asking me...

I'm not completely sure Wizard even knows what they're saying.

 

The good news is... Valiant is a dead company.

We're not talking about Wizard "hyping" the latest books in print...

They seem to be interested in reflecting a backissue situation,

which is very easy for collectors to investigate the history/reality of the market.

 

So far, the prices they've listed lately for Harbinger and Magnus are fairly accurate.

 

HOWEVER...

In Wizard #151, they had a little graphic for Valiant and they showed

the wrong picture for Bloodshot #0 Platinum Error.

http://www.valiantcomics.com/valiant/Wizard151Response.asp

 

Every comic shop in the country with back issues probably has that issue.

It's not even worth cover price... and they listed it as $500... beautiful.

 

So it's probably a philosophical question...

 

Which is better...

a source of information that is sometimes right, or no information at all?

[ninanina]

Valiantman...where do the "Acclaim" comics fit into all this. I heard the print runs on these were extremely low.

[valiantman]

Valiantman...where do the "Acclaim" comics fit into all this. I heard the print runs on these were extremely low.

 

Acclaim print runs (1997-2000) were low... 15,000 or less on most issues.

However, the stories were not "Valiant"... they were "reboots" with different origins, etc.,

at a time when even Marvel and DC books were not selling well.

 

I guess you could say that Acclaim represents an "elseworlds" version of Valiant...

 

The overall fan/reader reaction to Acclaim was mediocre at best,

and 15,000 is probably "too many" of most of those comics.

 

A few of the titles are considered "also good, but different" from their Valiant counterparts,

but most of the Acclaim books are considered "different, not necessarily good".

 

There are some Valiant collectors who like to pick up the Acclaim books, too,

but others are 100% anti-Acclaim.

(Kind of like Marvel reaction to that "Spider-man is a Clone" thing...)

[musicmeta]

There are several "categories" in the mind of a Valiant collector.

90% of all Valiant books in print belong in the

"overprinted, easy to get for SUPER-CHEAP" category.

 

This also adds to resurgence of collecting Valiant comics. Since you can get a lot back issues for less than the price of a current comic today. Then, all you have to do is spend a little more money on the harder to find ones and whala, you have a Valiant collection that has GREAT stories and really good art.

[cassidy lover-migration]

i never liked the art in valiant comics, never, only ones i like was ninjak and some turok by Joe Q. maybe thats why i always brought image back then.

[valiantman]

i never liked the art in valiant comics, never, only ones i like was ninjak and some turok by Joe Q. maybe thats why i always brought image back then.

Barry Windsor-Smith was involved with quite a few of the earliest issues...

but if you're more of an Image fan, alrightythen.

[1st-and-keys]

Personally I loved the valiant books ..I read and own every issue of every run and loved the consistency of the valiant universe.

[lou_fine]

Valiantman...where do the "Acclaim" comics fit into all this. I heard the print runs on these were extremely low.

 

Valiantman;

 

Since we've cover the back end of the Valiant universe, how about the front end where we had all of those "pre-Valiant" books such as Mario Bros., Zelda, etc.

 

I assume there's no chance in the world these will ever have any value similar to pre-hero DC's or pre-hero Marvels.

[ASM-completist]

I am anxious to see Tekno Comix back issues starting to rise in value just like Valiants. Then, the millions of 80's Image books will also skyrocket. .

[Jayman]

Valiantman...where do the "Acclaim" comics fit into all this. I heard the print runs on these were extremely low.

 

Valiantman;

 

Since we've cover the back end of the Valiant universe, how about the front end where we had all of those "pre-Valiant" books such as Mario Bros., Zelda, etc.

 

I assume there's no chance in the world these will ever have any value similar to pre-hero DC's or pre-hero Marvels.

 

Funny that you say this as I remember back in Valiant's heyday some dealers were touting these very books to be some of the "rare" early titles from a budding new publisher (Valiant) and that there print runs were even lower than the main titles. Any truth to that or info on these early books print runs? Or is it just hype?

 

Maybe there will be a market for these books with retro gamers

[valiantman]

I am anxious to see Tekno Comix back issues starting to rise in value just like Valiants. Then, the millions of 80's Image books will also skyrocket. .

All you need is an energetic fanbase.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[valiantman]

...I remember back in Valiant's heyday some dealers were touting these very books to be some of the "rare" early titles from a budding new publisher (Valiant) and that there print runs were even lower than the main titles. Any truth to that or info on these early books print runs? Or is it just hype?

 

Maybe there will be a market for these books with retro gamers

The Nintendo comics and WWF comics printed by Valiant were actually printed

in very large quantities (200,000+ on the first few issues), but they were sold primarily

through Toys R Us, gaming stores, and live events.

A very small percentage (10%?) of the books were sold through

Diamond and Capital City... so the dealers were correct when

they remembered having fewer copies in their shops...

but that didn't mean there were fewer copies in existence.

 

The condition on the books likely suffered due to the age of the audience...

little kids picking up Mario or Zelda comics in Toys R Us weren't buying bags and boards.

 

The pre-hero Valiant books were created strictly to generate a revenue for use

in the development of the Valiant Universe comics. According to the artists,

they were told exactly what colors to use, what stories to tell, and what the

characters had to look like... both by Nintendo and by WWF.

 

I'm not in a big hurry to add the pre-hero books to my website...

Honestly, the Acclaim books wouldn't even be on there if someone

hadn't already scanned all of the covers and saved countless hours

by providing the information.

 

My "original focus" was pre-Unity Valiant...

everything else has been not only "by request" but also

a result of major contributions in content from others.