I am not Glenda Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chaykin Stevens said: Here's the part of the page with the woman in question: And here's the full page: Gil Kane is so underrated for his work on Conan, the Giant Size & annuals are among some of the best work in the entire series & as good as anything done by Big John imho Edited October 13, 2020 by I am not Glenda OtherEric, Kevin.J, Jordysnordy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlevy1 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 hours ago, MisterX said: Wow, looking at it again after all these years, that's the most poorly-constructed part of the page. The caption box is ambiguous, compared to the picture. The woman really could be either Belit or Valeria. The only reason we're supposed to assume it's Belit is because Conan clearly references both the hill-panther and Red Sonja, and being named first in the caption box, we could be led to believe that this woman is Belit. Even though she doesn't look anything like her later appearances. Maybe the dude with the eyepatch reinforces the pirate aspect of her background. I'm disappointed in how lame this is. I do have GSC1 and Conan 58, haven't read them in a really long time. I feel like unless Roy Thomas himself clarifies otherwise (and maybe he already has) it will be difficult to persuade people that GSC1 isn't her first appearance. Agree that it could be either woman but disagree that we would assume it is Belit - only reason to assume that is that it is on the CGC label. The woman looks like Valeria, why would it be Belit? Why would we assume that the first name in the caption box refers to the picture when the second name is actually closer to the picture? In any case, people largely agree that IH 181 is the first app of Wolverine even though IH 180 has a very clear shot large shot of Wolverine with no doubt - how is Conan 58 not the first appearance of Belit if IH 181 is the 1st Wolverine? Morganmi and Jordysnordy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_memories Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, mtlevy1 said: Agree that it could be either woman but disagree that we would assume it is Belit - only reason to assume that is that it is on the CGC label. The woman looks like Valeria, why would it be Belit? Why would we assume that the first name in the caption box refers to the picture when the second name is actually closer to the picture? In any case, people largely agree that IH 181 is the first app of Wolverine even though IH 180 has a very clear shot large shot of Wolverine with no doubt - how is Conan 58 not the first appearance of Belit if IH 181 is the 1st Wolverine? Good points and I don't think that's Belit anyway, I think its the first mention of Belit. The Pirate patch leans Valeria to me. Valeria was a member of The Red Brotherhood of pirates while Belit was the queen of the black coast, unfortunately displayed as black savages at the time. Her hair color is wrong and so are the Pirates, they are white. Jordysnordy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, comic_memories said: Good points and I don't think that's Belit anyway, I think its the first mention of Belit. The Pirate patch leans Valeria to me. Valeria was a member of The Red Brotherhood of pirates while Belit was the queen of the black coast, unfortunately displayed as black savages at the time. Her hair color is wrong and so are the Pirates, they are white. The hair style and attire is very similar to the Valeria of Red Nails... if I'm not mistaken. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) I am not Glenda, comic_memories and divad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 21 hours ago, I am not Glenda said: Gil Kane is so underrated for his work on Conan, the Giant Size & annuals are among some of the best work in the entire series & as good as anything done by Big John imho The Tom Sutton inking over Kane’s pencils in the first couple of Giant-Size issues is gritty and looks quite brilliant. As does the more familiar Kane / Adams combination elsewhere. I am not Glenda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post divad Posted October 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:03 PM, comixry said: For Conan #58, CGC just says "Belit appearance". Another eBay listing (kinda blurry). You DO realize, that what a CGC label "says" is irrelevant to the truth . . . DON'T YOU? NP_Gresham, Morganmi, comic_memories and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:56 PM, I am not Glenda said: Gil Kane is so underrated for his work on Conan, the Giant Size & annuals are among some of the best work in the entire series & as good as anything done by Big John imho That may or may not be Belit . . . BUT that's definitely Red Sonja! ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 12:23 PM, shadroch said: I would say the writer and artist intended that to be Belit. Just because the colorist screwed up, doesn't change their intent. It's not Belit . . . It's a memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 9:07 AM, MisterX said: Margaret Brundage I read somewhere that H.P. Lovecraft couldn't stand her artwork, and would tear the covers off his copies of WT. "Not that there's anything wrong with that . . . " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I'm on such a roll, even my wife won't talk to me (insert Groucho icon here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I must have at least 80,000 posts . . . but CGC doesn't count them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 5:05 PM, ThothAmon said: Maybe you’d see things more clearly after a few trips down the rabbit hole! Trip to Sarasota seems in order. I deeply admire your way of saying the prices on MTU 131 are Mad. jimjum12 and ThothAmon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem1138 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Interested in seeing if this one validates the 9k Comiclink sale...certainly looking like it as higher graded copies are seemingly drying up...https://www.ebay.com/itm/Giant-Size-X-Men-1-CGC-9-6-Off-White-White-Pages/193706058868?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jordysnordy Posted October 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 11:01 AM, comic_memories said: Good points and I don't think that's Belit anyway, I think its the first mention of Belit. The Pirate patch leans Valeria to me. Valeria was a member of The Red Brotherhood of pirates while Belit was the queen of the black coast, unfortunately displayed as black savages at the time. Her hair color is wrong and so are the Pirates, they are white. Being a huge Conan I definitely agree with you on this. Conan 58 is her 1st physical appearance, GS1 1st mention by name, same as ASM 25 with MJ Morganmi, comic_memories, Comicshows and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NP_Gresham Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 With the recent uptick in Conan interest, still no movement on Chamber of Darkness #4? Was this story repurposed as ‘Conan’ in a later issue? jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Batman 313 is really taking off.. I haven't found a copy yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, littledoom said: Batman 313 is really taking off.. I haven't found a copy yet I saw this on Bleeding Cool https://bleedingcool.com/comics/batman-313-ebay-joker-war-zone-tim-fox-rumours/ littledoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spreads Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Although the first print is technically in the sixties, the later printings fall into the Bronze age. Fed n Heads 1st print - low grade copy just sold for good chunk of cake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Star&Bar Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I'll be sending in my Batman 313, and expect 9.6 with a shot at 9.8. By the time that hit the stands, I'd been carefully selecting my copies of the title for about 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 5:17 AM, NP_Gresham said: With the recent uptick in Conan interest, still no movement on Chamber of Darkness #4? Was this story repurposed as ‘Conan’ in a later issue? I don't think it was ever repurposed as a Conan story; it was reprinted in Conan the Barbarian #16 along with "The Frost Giant's Daughter", though. So it's been recognized as a prototype for the Marvel version of Conan pretty much since the launch of Conan the Barbarian, even within Marvel. But it's definitely not actually Conan, and since it's not the cover story I'm not sure it's going to have that much demand in the era of slabbed books. With all that said, it probably deserves more love than it's currently getting in the market. NP_Gresham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...