Illustrious Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Cool - I remember that from OHOTMU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Cool - I remember that from OHOTMU Wait, what about Bucky's post-war adventures in Captain America Comics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Cool - I remember that from OHOTMU Wait, what about Bucky's post-war adventures in Captain America Comics? It was retconned that any Cap and Bucky in Captain America Comics after 1945 were other people taking on the persona's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Should MP 1 be worth more than Thor 165? Almost every other example in the market proves that the earlier appearance is more coveted. When I read this kind of comment, it makes me want to puke. You people are all so enthralled with the "market value" (like that means anything) it really makes me sick that some people actually equate value with importance, *especially* when we're talking about books from totally different eras. I think I'm about done in this thread, so you can go back to fondling your slabs and talking about ROI and all that important comic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Cool - I remember that from OHOTMU Wait, what about Bucky's post-war adventures in Captain America Comics? It was retconned that any Cap and Bucky in Captain America Comics after 1945 were other people taking on the persona's. Here's a good breakdown of the other people who took on the Cap mantle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incarnations_of_Captain_America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 So what's up with this book being so expensive? Is it rumors of the movie Bucky/Winter Soldier being a version of the 50's Bucky Jack Monroe or just more Nomad stuff? The first appearance of the "Jack Monroe" Bucky is Young Men #24. It wasn't meant to be him at the time but it was retconned in the 70's. Cool - I remember that from OHOTMU Wait, what about Bucky's post-war adventures in Captain America Comics? It was retconned that any Cap and Bucky in Captain America Comics after 1945 were other people taking on the persona's. I know but I assumed Jack Monroe was the post-war Bucky which dude said first appeared in YM 24. I guess there was more than one substitute, I will look it up, thanks. (Fred Davis, got it) :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 But that was a pretty weak retcon, right up there with the coke-fueled "Norman Osborne digging himself out of the ground and hiding in France for decades" stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 But that was a pretty weak retcon, right up there with the coke-fueled "Norman Osborne digging himself out of the ground and hiding in France for decades" stupidity. Things that Joe Collector does not like: 1. Coke 2. Speedos 3. Cavemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Seems like both sides are passionate about their take on it and this will be interesting. One person is passionate about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) But that was a pretty weak retcon, right up there with the coke-fueled "Norman Osborne digging himself out of the ground and hiding in France for decades" stupidity. Things that Joe Collector does not like: 1. Coke 2. Speedos 3. Cavemen Things JC does like: 1. Synonyms for "stupid" 2. ? Edited February 9, 2014 by DavidTheDavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrjr Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Seems like both sides are passionate about their take on it and this will be interesting. One person is passionate about it. Actually, I think he is just crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01TheDude Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) not really wanting to get too tangled in this debate but the second poll reminds me of Clinton saying "It depends on what you mean by IS" or some such thingamabob Edited February 9, 2014 by 01TheDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Does a CGC slab for (Uncanny) X-Men #101 say "1st appearance of Phoenix?" -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFan Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Does a CGC slab for (Uncanny) X-Men #101 say "1st appearance of Phoenix?" -slym The ones I've seen read "Origin and 1st appearance of Phoenix". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 But the Phoenix entity is a different character than Jean Grey. So that's not quite the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I love the stories with the crazy 1950's Cap every time they unfreeze him, but I don't really see that book going up unless the 3rd movie tells the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Things that Joe Collector does not like: 1. Coke 2. Speedos 3. Cavemen Since you so vehemently disagree, please do *not* invite me over to one of your weekend parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_collector Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 But the Phoenix entity is a different character than Jean Grey. So that's not quite the same situation. But that was just a retcon and when Jean was supposed to be Phoenix, it was still noted as "1st Appearance of Phoenix" in OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 But the Phoenix entity is a different character than Jean Grey. So that's not quite the same situation. Took years to really hash that out too. For years as a teenager I never separated the two even though it made clear later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
