kagenish Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 did they drop the price too? no still $100 more expensive than the ps4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaven Kev-migration Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Oh and I see they took away all the sharing features too. I'm kind of shocked, but they must have been under major pressure at retail for this to happen. They dont just listen to customers and do what they say...ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made a play for the home console market... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Nielsen Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Now they just need to drop the stupid always kinected and thereby lowering it's price and they may still have a chance http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 just seen Microsoft make a huge announcement and they are going back on what they were doing due to being outsold by the PS4, dont need net all time now and can now play used/swapped games haha they have melted wow, CAVED. Smart move for them though. It was cave or get DESTROYED. This way it'll hurt them but this memory will pass in time. If they hadn't changed it, xbone would have been years of bad press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made a play for the home console market... If anything the industry needs one machine less, not one machine more. I would say its not a market they need to go into. Then again, I would have said the same thing about the phone market before the iphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hado Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 It's got a new name too, Introducing the X-Box One...Eighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 hahahah well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggr1103 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made a play for the home console market... If anything the industry needs one machine less, not one machine more. I would say its not a market they need to go into. Then again, I would have said the same thing about the phone market before the iphone Apple is hedging the casual gamers market. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading a story that said that more games are played on Apple devices than consoles and other smartphones/tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made a play for the home console market... If anything the industry needs one machine less, not one machine more. I would say its not a market they need to go into. Then again, I would have said the same thing about the phone market before the iphone Apple is hedging the casual gamers market. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading a story that said that more games are played on Apple devices than consoles and other smartphones/tablets. Those are just casual games that dont compare to the console pc games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Oh and I see they took away all the sharing features too. I'm kind of shocked, but they must have been under major pressure at retail for this to happen. They dont just listen to customers and do what they say...ever. From what I can tell, the sharing feature was pretty tied into the whole DRM piece. Can't have one without the other. Otherwise, people just buy the game, load it to the harddrive and them sell it the same day. Then, they share it with all their friends, also for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Madness Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) The funny thing is that Microsoft can still add the used game/DRM restriction at any time. It's built into the platform and buried in their EULA. So who's to say that they'd all of a sudden apply these restrictions? Quite frankly, I cannot trust them. Also, I believe they still require to have the Kinect camera connected. They're just a company that I have completely lost respect for especially with some of their employers' responses to questions we had regarding their system. Edited June 19, 2013 by Lucid Enigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COI Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 just seen Microsoft make a huge announcement and they are going back on what they were doing due to being outsold by the PS4, dont need net all time now and can now play used/swapped games haha they have melted wow, CAVED. Smart move for them though. It was cave or get DESTROYED. This way it'll hurt them but this memory will pass in time. If they hadn't changed it, xbone would have been years of bad press. Beaten into submission. The internet works! They'll have a little stink on them for some time to come, but if they stick with these changes long enough, people will forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) just seen Microsoft make a huge announcement and they are going back on what they were doing due to being outsold by the PS4, dont need net all time now and can now play used/swapped games haha they have melted wow, CAVED. Smart move for them though. It was cave or get DESTROYED. This way it'll hurt them but this memory will pass in time. If they hadn't changed it, xbone would have been years of bad press. Beaten into submission. The internet works! They'll have a little stink on them for some time to come, but if they stick with these changes long enough, people will forget. I won`t for awhile. They were arrognant,and now they have to eat crow! Let`s also thank Sony,as they could have entered into a collusion with Microsoft about charging an extra fee for used games,but they didn`t. My money`s still going to the PS4. Edited June 20, 2013 by ComicConnoisseur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggr1103 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I'm surprised Apple hasn't made a play for the home console market... If anything the industry needs one machine less, not one machine more. I would say its not a market they need to go into. Then again, I would have said the same thing about the phone market before the iphone Apple is hedging the casual gamers market. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading a story that said that more games are played on Apple devices than consoles and other smartphones/tablets. Those are just casual games that dont compare to the console pc games. Apple isn't trying to compare or compete with console or pc games. My point is that the casual game market is a big revenue maker for apple. No telling how much my family has spent on little 99 cent games across 3 or 4 different smart phones over the past few years. Truth be told though smartphones and tablets are getting more powerful. Its already been proven that WoW can be played on an IPad. Steam is available for macs now. No reason for apple to get into making hardware - consoles - that are going to be largely replaced by HTPC's in the next decade. They already have Apple TV for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Agreed on all pts. I am also glad that fan reaction was so vociferous - it will make all of the manufacturers hesitant to pull this kind of stunt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Microsoft might have caved on restrictions, but at the end of the day..... It's still $100 more out of the gate, and that hurts. I had an opportunity to reserve both and chose PS4 for two reasons: price and XBOX BS restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genrlzod Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 They killed the family share plan which was the feature i was looking forward to. So now instead of getting 1 copy of halo and playing co-op with my brother in Arizona we each need to get a copy now. The ability to share games with friends without giving them the disc was a cool idea. Hopefully they will find a way to add it back in in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COI Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 My main gripe with the Xbone other than the DRM actually wasn't addressed; it's the fact that it doesn't function without the Kinect. And the Kinect is the reason it's $100 more. It sucks. I have a bunch of workout equipment including a giant treadmill in the same room that I game, so I just don't have the space to make that thing work. The fact that it's necessary for the Xbone to even turn on is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COI Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Agreed on all pts. I am also glad that fan reaction was so vociferous - it will make all of the manufacturers hesitant to pull this kind of stunt again. The industry is headed in a digital-only direction, but it's going to take a solid decade to get there. It has to evolve naturally, and what the Xbone was trying to do was force it before the consumer base was ready. I would still approach the Xbone cautiously. They can turn on DRM or "always online" with a simple software update, and they've shown their cards. So I'm still weary about their console. PS4 only for me, for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
