Pre-screen ?

[reptilekingdie]

Since Matt Nelson is working for CGC and if I decide to go with Matt for pre-screen would I have to go through CGC for another pre-screen on the same books?

[Davenport]

Aren't they two different services? Two different screening processes? One for pressing viability, and one for a specific grade level?

 

Aside from that, they're supposed to be two separate business entities, two 'independent' cogs in the machine. (according to the press release)

 

Gotta pay to play.

[ARWilson-migration]

Aside from that, they're supposed to be two separate business entities, two 'independent' cogs in the machine. (according to the press release)

 

Yup. Someone will be along to tell you that Matt does not work for CGC.

[mschmidt]

Aren't they two different services? Two different screening processes? One for pressing viability, and one for a specific grade level?

 

Aside from that, they're supposed to be two separate business entities, two 'independent' cogs in the machine. (according to the press release)

 

Gotta pay to play.

 

Yep, the "screening" service that CI offers only applies to already-slabbed books and basically just tells you whether a book could possibly benefit from a press or not.

 

The pre-screening service that CGC offers is a completely different beast.

[mschmidt]

Aside from that, they're supposed to be two separate business entities, two 'independent' cogs in the machine. (according to the press release)

 

Yup. Someone will be along to tell you that Matt does not work for CGC.

 

That's because he doesn't

[Davenport]

Yep, the "screening" service that CI offers only applies to already-slabbed books and basically just tells you whether a book could possibly benefit from a press or not.

That's new, isn't it? A change due to the acquisition, no longer evaluating non-encapsulated books?

 

Doesn't that add to the math? Adds a another service fee to the loop?: grading fee + pressing service fee + after pressing grading fee? As opposed to screening pressable books and having them reflattened before CGC.

 

 

[mschmidt]

Yep, the "screening" service that CI offers only applies to already-slabbed books and basically just tells you whether a book could possibly benefit from a press or not.

That's new, isn't it? A change due to the acquisition, no longer evaluating non-encapsulated books?

 

Doesn't that add to the math? Adds a another service fee to the loop?: grading fee + pressing service fee + after pressing grading fee? As opposed to screening pressable books and having them reflattened before CGC.

 

 

Yeah, it's a new rule.

 

I don't see how it changes the calculation, though - for raw books, you have this path:

 

CI pressing + CGC grading

 

and for CGC books this one:

 

CI screening + CI pressing + CGC grading

 

Isn't that the same it's always been (with the exception of the screening service being available for raw books)?

[Davenport]

Just checked out the website. http://www.ccspaper.com/

 

That seems like some serious 'back scratching' to disallow raw comics, aside from the price doubling.

 

Seems like that prohibition would make alternative pressing services that much more competitive. Forcing anyone with pressable raw comics they want to get encapsulated to seek out the competition.

 

Who knows. Maybe it's very smart, short term, to raise prices and add a sister-service-only restriction. But long term? Might bite 'em right in the patootie.

[Davenport]

More 'back scratching'.

 

This is new too, isn't it?

 

"Although submission of any books to CCS may be through either the the CGC Collector Society or a CGC Authorized Member Dealer, the submission process is separate and distinct from that of the CGC grading process."

 

Pay to join the Society or find a Member Dealer. No direct submissions?

 

Seems like they're going for the Apple model. Proprietary as hell.

[DrWatson]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

[Davenport]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

$5 minimum, 1% FMV across all CGC service tiers.

 

http://www.ccspaper.com/

 

 

[DrWatson]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

$5 minimum, 1% FMV across all CGC service levels.

 

http://www.ccspaper.com/

So, what happens if you send the same batch of books in under a CGC pre-screen?

[Davenport]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

$5 minimum, 1% FMV across all CGC service levels.

 

http://www.ccspaper.com/

So, what happens if you send the same batch of books in under a CGC pre-screen?

The books that make it through, then become encapsulated, become viable for the pressing service screen? (the way it reads.)

 

Hopefully some Players will weigh in on this. Seems wacky.

 

If not the Apple approach, then the Marvel approach: Pillage the one's who brung ya.

 

 

[mschmidt]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

$5 minimum, 1% FMV across all CGC service tiers.

 

http://www.ccspaper.com/

 

 

That's not a pre-screen service, though - that's just the "could this book possibly benefit from a press" service only available to already slabbed books :shrug:

[Davenport]

I thought Matt Nelson no longer offered a pre-screen service since he hitched his wagon to the CGC.

$5 minimum, 1% FMV across all CGC service tiers.

 

http://www.ccspaper.com/

 

 

That's not a pre-screen service, though - that's just the "could this book possibly benefit from a press" service only available to already slabbed books :shrug:

Right. It's not a "potential grade pre-screen", it's a "viable for pressing service pre-screen". We're back to the distinction the OP wasn't making. Two different animals. Right?

 

CGC pre-screen results in some books making the (grade) cutoff and some (possibly) not. After CGC enacapsulation then they're eligible for the Matt Nelson "viability for pressing service pre-screen" service fee (1% FMV).

[Davenport]

 

 

[Naelbis]

When I subbed my book to CCS prior to the switch the work order had a section for estimated grade after pressing. After the switch they redid the work order and it now only has a Press/No Press section if you pay for screening.

[Davenport]

That slab-only restriction for screens really seems self defeating.

 

I thought there'd be much more discussion about the changes to CI's menu of services and prices. If the fans here have little interest, it doesn't bode well for luring the unwashed masses into utilizing their new CPR system.

 

Maybe once they're all settled in there'll be another press release extolling the cost benefits.