namisgr Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Northland early Marvels ... Great books, Beltan and Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfilosa Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 The only thing wrong with this statement is that you need to capitalize all the wows. WOW.....WOW....and WOW!!!!! Love those Northlands. They actually might be my favorite SA pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Love those Northlands. They actually might be my favorite SA pedigree. I sure wish I owned more of the early Northlands, Steve. My only gripe with the pedigree (besides the FF13 turning up with a partially detached centerfold, according to CGC ) is that the quality of books from around '67 on is not as high, ironically, as the older books. Recognizing this, Michael Goldman downgraded many of the later '60s Marvels to VF/NM or NM- grades. Below is just one example of a later NL book that has great structure and gloss, but also yellowing on the front and back covers, especially along the spine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfilosa Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Very Interesting. It might be similar with the Pacific Coast which in general has lesser page quality as the books get newer. That said, because there are NO IDENTIFYING marks on most SA pedigrees, I'm sure that there are books floating around (and maybe even CGC'd) with a Pedigree Certificate that are NOT truly from the pedigree collection. I'm not implying that your book isn't a Northland, especially if you see a consistent pattern of aging on books from that period. While this isn't something anyone really wants to here, and since most SA pedigrees has some DOUBLES (or more), there is nothing to stop someone from CGC'ing a book uses the pedigree certificate (a la the Northland certificates), and then trying to sell a raw book in the approximate same grade as the pedigree copy (with the certificate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 That said, because there are NO IDENTIFYING marks on most SA pedigrees, I'm sure that there are books floating around (and maybe even CGC'd) with a Pedigree Certificate that are NOT truly from the pedigree collection. I'm not implying that your book isn't a Northland, especially if you see a consistent pattern of aging on books from that period. While this isn't something anyone really wants to here, and since most SA pedigrees has some DOUBLES (or more), there is nothing to stop someone from CGC'ing a book uses the pedigree certificate (a la the Northland certificates), and then trying to sell a raw book in the approximate same grade as the pedigree copy (with the certificate). While there may be a few exceptions, Steve, I don't recall there being any NL duplicates in Motor City's original listings. You raise an excellent point that the pedigree "system" has the potential for abuse, but the CGC census should be helpful (if not definitive) in this regard. As for my NL books, I bought them directly from Motor City, and so have complete confidence in the authenticity of their ped status. On the other hand, I've seen lots of books at shows that are alleged Mile High II books that I've wondered about, and with the many replicates of certain books that MH II contains, keeping legitimate track of the pedigree is not straightforward at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 I finally won a Western Penn Daredevil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfilosa Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 Good price and because it's a white cover the crease at the top right really doesn't look bad at all. Probably can press it out (oh, sorry). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantern Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Northland. 1st app. King Kull Bernie Wirghtson art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Wrightson artwork on a Marvel, plus a Northland book, plus a first appearance - triply cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackandpresstoan11 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 2 Northlands..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackandpresstoan11 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 2 Bethlehems.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackandpresstoan11 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Need to rescan this later on red paper, but this'll have to do. And I took your advice about the colored paper DL! Green River Copy, Doom Patrol #99. DP #99 Bethlehem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hook Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Pedigree Twins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfilosa Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Very good stuff. Keep them coming (I haven't bought a new pedigree book in a month ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Good price and because it's a white cover the crease at the top right really doesn't look bad at all. Probably can press it out (oh, sorry). I have the book now and can comment. It looks MUCH worse in the scan. From arm's length I can't even see a hint of it. I'm psyched. My DD run now has Green River, White Mountain, Bethlehem, Pacific Coast, Western Penn, Northland and Curator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Very good stuff. Keep them coming (I haven't bought a new pedigree book in a month ). I haven't bought a new pedigree book in a month (and 28 years) either. Soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Raw Pedigrees rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hook Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Very good stuff. Keep them coming (I haven't bought a new pedigree book in a month ). Is the withdrawal as painful as I imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin_Radd Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 My DD run now has Green River, White Mountain, Bethlehem, Pacific Coast, Western Penn, Northland and Curator. "Most impressive." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Hook Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 My DD run now has Green River, White Mountain, Bethlehem, Pacific Coast, Western Penn, Northland and Curator. So why haven't you sent me a nice scan of your Green River yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
