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The Copper 100: The Most Important Marvel Comics (1984-1991)

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Just a suggestion, and these may be listed elsewhere, but going with the top 50 or 75 story arcs may work too. That way you don't run into problems like including only 4 of the 6 Kraven's Hunt books (Web books were left off). You aren't so worried about numbers of individual books that way, and you don't arbitrarily leave important issues of those stories off.

 

Edit: saw they'd been added since I last looked. Rest of point remains.

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I would add all daredevil born again issues, not just 227. absolute classic daredevil story

 

 

I have to agree. More than some of those reprint issues.

 

I struggled cutting out the Born Again storyline (and the Punisher Limited Series). But you're right, that entire arc is worthy.

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Just a suggestion, and these may be listed elsewhere, but going with the top 50 or 75 story arcs may work too. That way you don't run into problems like including only 4 of the 6 Kraven's Hunt books (Web books were left off). You aren't so worried about numbers of individual books that way, and you don't arbitrarily leave important issues of those stories off.

 

Edit: saw they'd been added since I last looked. Rest of point remains.

 

I made sure that all the Kraven books were on there from the beginning. That was one of my favorites growing up.

 

I think part of the fun of this is finding a way to limit it. But I see that I'm running into some problems balancing stories with just key/valuable issues. I'll need to rework the list.

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Here's an updated list, with a new title that (hopefully) captures the idea that it includes key issues as well as key storylines.

 

Went ahead and added all issues for the limited series titles, plus Avengers Under Siege, and Daredevil Born Again, plus Silver Surfer 34. Not really sure about the Longshot mini or the Kitty Pryde/Wolverine mini. Thoughts?

 

 

NOTE: Italics indicate addition. Those without a number are those being suggested for removal.

 

 

100 Most Important Marvel Copper Age Comics

  1. Alpha Flight 33 First Lady Deathstrike
  2. Alpha Flight 51 1st Jim Lee
  3. Amazing Spider-Man 252 1st black costume
  4. Amazing Spider-Man 265 1st Silver Sable
  5. Amazing Spider-Man 289 Death of Ned Leeds
  6. Amazing Spider-Man 293 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  7. Amazing Spider-Man 294 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  8. Amazing Spider-Man 298 Todd McFarlane begins; 1st Eddie Brock
  9. Amazing Spider-Man 299 1st brief Venom
  10. Amazing Spider-Man 300 First full Venom
  11. Amazing Spider-Man 312 Hobgoblin vs. Green Goblin
  12. Amazing Spider-Man 316 Venom app
  13. Amazing Spider-Man 344 1st Cletus Kasaday
  14. Amazing Spider-Man 3611st Carnage
  15. Amazing Spider-Man 365 1st Spider-Man 2099
  16. Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue
    Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue (newstand)
  17. Avengers 257 1st Nebula
  18. Avengers 270 Under Siege
  19. Avengers 271 Under Siege
  20. Avengers 272 Under Siege
  21. Avengers 273 Under Siege
  22. Avengers 274 Under Siege
  23. Avengers 275 Under Siege
  24. Avengers 276 Under Siege
  25. Avengers 277 Under Siege
  26. Captain America 332 Cap resigns
  27. Captain America Annual 8 Wolverine
  28. Daredevil 227 Frank Miller; Born Again
  29. Daredevil 228 Frank Miller; Born Again
  30. Daredevil 229 Frank Miller; Born Again
  31. Daredevil 230 Frank Miller; Born Again
  32. Daredevil 231 Frank Miller; Born Again
    Daredevil 248 Wolverine
    Daredevil 249 Wolverine
  33. Daredevil 254 1st Typhoid Mary
  34. Daredevil 257 vs. Punisher
  35. Fantastic Four 286 X-Factor
    Fantastic Four 320 Thing vs. Hulk
  36. Ghost Rider 1
  37. GI Joe 21 1st Storm Shadow; silent issue
  38. GI Joe 25 1st Zartan
  39. GI Joe 26 Origin Snake Eyes
  40. GI Joe 27 Origin Snake Eyes
  41. GI Joe 93 Snake Eyes’ face revealed
  42. Incredible Hulk 330 McFarlane; Ross dies
  43. Incredible Hulk 331 Grey Hulk
  44. Incredible Hulk 340 Hulk vs. Wolverine
  45. Infinity Gauntlet 1
  46. Iron Man 282 1st War Machine
  47. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 1
  48. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 2
  49. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 3
  50. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 4
  51. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 5
  52. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 6
  53. Longshot 1 1st Longshot
  54. Longshot 2
  55. Longshot 3
  56. Longshot 4
  57. Longshot 5
  58. Longshot 6
  59. Marvel Team-Up 141 1st black costume
  60. The ‘Nam 1st issue
  61. New Mutants 87 1st Cable
  62. New Mutants 98 1st Deadpool
  63. New Mutants 100 1st X-Force
  64. New Mutants Annual 2 1st Psylocke
  65. Punisher Limited Series 1 1st issue
  66. Punisher Limited Series 2
  67. Punisher Limited Series 3
  68. Punisher Limited Series 4
  69. Punisher Limited Series 5
  70. Secret Wars 1 Copper age begins; cross-overs begin
  71. Secret Wars 8 Black costume
  72. Silver Surfer 34
  73. Silver Surfer 35 Thanos
  74. Silver Surfer 50 Thanos
  75. Spectacular Spider-Man 107 Death of Jean DeWolff
  76. Spectacular Spider-Man 131 Kraven
  77. Spectacular Spider-Man 132 Kraven
    Spider-Man 1 Platinum 10,000 copies mailed to retailers
    Spider-Man 1 Gold UPC Less than 10K for Wal-Mart
  78. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine 1 Death of Ned Leeds
  79. Star Wars 107 Final issue; low distribution
  80. Thor 411 1st brief New Warriors
  81. Thor 412 1st New Warriors
  82. Transformers 80 Final issue
  83. Uncanny X-Men 201 1st app Cable as baby
  84. Uncanny X-Men 205 Wolverine by BWSmith
  85. Uncanny X-Men 210 Mutant Massacre
  86. Uncanny X-Men 211 Mutant Massacre
  87. Uncanny X-Men 212 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  88. Uncanny X-Men 213 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  89. Uncanny X-Men 221 1st Mr. Sinister
  90. Uncanny X-Men 222 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  91. Uncanny X-Men 244 1st Jubilee
  92. Uncanny X-Men 248 1st Jim Lee
  93. Uncanny X-Men 266 1st Gambit
  94. Uncanny X-Men 268 Cap, Black Widow, and Wolverine
  95. Uncanny X-Men 282 1st brief Bishop
  96. Uncanny X-Men 283 1st full Bishop
    Uncanny X-Men 297 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 303 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 307 Gold Limited
  97. Web of Spider-Man 1 Black costume; 1st issue
  98. Web of Spider-Man 18 1st Venom?
  99. Web of Spider-Man 29 Wolverine
  100. Web of Spider-Man 31 Kraven
  101. Web of Spider-Man 32 Kraven
  102. Wolverine 1 1st issue
  103. Wolverine 10 1st battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth
  104. X-Factor 1 1st issue
  105. X-Factor 5 1st brief Apocalypse
  106. X-Factor 6 1st Apocalypse
  107. X-Factor 24 1st Archangel
    X -Men 11 Silver/Platinum 2nd print

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Here's an updated list, with a new title that (hopefully) captures the idea that it includes key issues as well as key storylines.

 

Went ahead and added all issues for the limited series titles, plus Avengers Under Siege, and Daredevil Born Again, plus Silver Surfer 34. Not really sure about the Longshot mini or the Kitty Pryde/Wolverine mini. Thoughts?

 

 

NOTE: Italics indicate addition. Those without a number are those being suggested for removal.

 

 

100 Most Important Marvel Copper Age Comics

  1. Alpha Flight 33 First Lady Deathstrike
  2. Alpha Flight 51 1st Jim Lee
  3. Amazing Spider-Man 252 1st black costume
  4. Amazing Spider-Man 265 1st Silver Sable
  5. Amazing Spider-Man 289 Death of Ned Leeds
  6. Amazing Spider-Man 293 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  7. Amazing Spider-Man 294 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  8. Amazing Spider-Man 298 Todd McFarlane begins; 1st Eddie Brock
  9. Amazing Spider-Man 299 1st brief Venom
  10. Amazing Spider-Man 300 First full Venom
  11. Amazing Spider-Man 312 Hobgoblin vs. Green Goblin
  12. Amazing Spider-Man 316 Venom app
  13. Amazing Spider-Man 344 1st Cletus Kasaday
  14. Amazing Spider-Man 3611st Carnage
  15. Amazing Spider-Man 365 1st Spider-Man 2099
  16. Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue
    Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue (newstand)
  17. Avengers 257 1st Nebula
  18. Avengers 270 Under Siege
  19. Avengers 271 Under Siege
  20. Avengers 272 Under Siege
  21. Avengers 273 Under Siege
  22. Avengers 274 Under Siege
  23. Avengers 275 Under Siege
  24. Avengers 276 Under Siege
  25. Avengers 277 Under Siege
  26. Captain America 332 Cap resigns
  27. Captain America Annual 8 Wolverine
  28. Daredevil 227 Frank Miller; Born Again
  29. Daredevil 228 Frank Miller; Born Again
  30. Daredevil 229 Frank Miller; Born Again
  31. Daredevil 230 Frank Miller; Born Again
  32. Daredevil 231 Frank Miller; Born Again
    Daredevil 248 Wolverine
    Daredevil 249 Wolverine
  33. Daredevil 254 1st Typhoid Mary
  34. Daredevil 257 vs. Punisher
  35. Fantastic Four 286 X-Factor
    Fantastic Four 320 Thing vs. Hulk
  36. Ghost Rider 1
  37. GI Joe 21 1st Storm Shadow; silent issue
  38. GI Joe 25 1st Zartan
  39. GI Joe 26 Origin Snake Eyes
  40. GI Joe 27 Origin Snake Eyes
  41. GI Joe 93 Snake Eyes’ face revealed
  42. Incredible Hulk 330 McFarlane; Ross dies
  43. Incredible Hulk 331 Grey Hulk
  44. Incredible Hulk 340 Hulk vs. Wolverine
  45. Infinity Gauntlet 1
  46. Iron Man 282 1st War Machine
  47. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 1
  48. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 2
  49. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 3
  50. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 4
  51. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 5
  52. Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 6
  53. Longshot 1 1st Longshot
  54. Longshot 2
  55. Longshot 3
  56. Longshot 4
  57. Longshot 5
  58. Longshot 6
  59. Marvel Team-Up 141 1st black costume
  60. The ‘Nam 1st issue
  61. New Mutants 87 1st Cable
  62. New Mutants 98 1st Deadpool
  63. New Mutants 100 1st X-Force
  64. New Mutants Annual 2 1st Psylocke
  65. Punisher Limited Series 1 1st issue
  66. Punisher Limited Series 2
  67. Punisher Limited Series 3
  68. Punisher Limited Series 4
  69. Punisher Limited Series 5
  70. Secret Wars 1 Copper age begins; cross-overs begin
  71. Secret Wars 8 Black costume
  72. Silver Surfer 34
  73. Silver Surfer 35 Thanos
  74. Silver Surfer 50 Thanos
  75. Spectacular Spider-Man 107 Death of Jean DeWolff
  76. Spectacular Spider-Man 131 Kraven
  77. Spectacular Spider-Man 132 Kraven
    Spider-Man 1 Platinum 10,000 copies mailed to retailers
    Spider-Man 1 Gold UPC Less than 10K for Wal-Mart
  78. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine 1 Death of Ned Leeds
  79. Star Wars 107 Final issue; low distribution
  80. Thor 411 1st brief New Warriors
  81. Thor 412 1st New Warriors
  82. Transformers 80 Final issue
  83. Uncanny X-Men 201 1st app Cable as baby
  84. Uncanny X-Men 205 Wolverine by BWSmith
  85. Uncanny X-Men 210 Mutant Massacre
  86. Uncanny X-Men 211 Mutant Massacre
  87. Uncanny X-Men 212 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  88. Uncanny X-Men 213 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  89. Uncanny X-Men 221 1st Mr. Sinister
  90. Uncanny X-Men 222 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  91. Uncanny X-Men 244 1st Jubilee
  92. Uncanny X-Men 248 1st Jim Lee
  93. Uncanny X-Men 266 1st Gambit
  94. Uncanny X-Men 268 Cap, Black Widow, and Wolverine
  95. Uncanny X-Men 282 1st brief Bishop
  96. Uncanny X-Men 283 1st full Bishop
    Uncanny X-Men 297 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 303 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 307 Gold Limited
  97. Web of Spider-Man 1 Black costume; 1st issue
  98. Web of Spider-Man 18 1st Venom?
  99. Web of Spider-Man 29 Wolverine
  100. Web of Spider-Man 31 Kraven
  101. Web of Spider-Man 32 Kraven
  102. Wolverine 1 1st issue
  103. Wolverine 10 1st battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth
  104. X-Factor 1 1st issue
  105. X-Factor 5 1st brief Apocalypse
  106. X-Factor 6 1st Apocalypse
  107. X-Factor 24 1st Archangel
    X -Men 11 Silver/Platinum 2nd print

 

Kitty Pryde and Wolverine is a must-own? Seriously?

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Kitty Pryde and Wolverine is a must-own? Seriously?

 

(shrug) I've never actually read it. I saw it on a few lists as I was putting my own list together, and figured it must be pretty good to make it on other lists. Is it that bad?

 

Removing the entire series would get me closer to 100, which I like. hm

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Take three. Getting closer.

 

NOTE: Italics indicate addition. Those without a number are those being suggested for removal.

 

 

100 Most Important Marvel Copper Age Comics

  1. Alpha Flight 33 First Lady Deathstrike
  2. Alpha Flight 51 1st Jim Lee
  3. Amazing Spider-Man 252 1st black costume
  4. Amazing Spider-Man 265 1st Silver Sable
  5. Amazing Spider-Man 289 Death of Ned Leeds
  6. Amazing Spider-Man 293 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  7. Amazing Spider-Man 294 Kraven’s Last Hunt
  8. Amazing Spider-Man 298 Todd McFarlane begins; 1st Eddie Brock
  9. Amazing Spider-Man 299 1st brief Venom
  10. Amazing Spider-Man 300 First full Venom
  11. Amazing Spider-Man 312 Hobgoblin vs. Green Goblin
  12. Amazing Spider-Man 316 Venom app
  13. Amazing Spider-Man 344 1st Cletus Kasaday
  14. Amazing Spider-Man 3611st Carnage
  15. Amazing Spider-Man 365 1st Spider-Man 2099
  16. Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue
    Amazing Spider-Man Ann. 21 Marriage issue (newstand)
  17. Avengers 257 1st Nebula
  18. Avengers 270 Under Siege
  19. Avengers 271 Under Siege
  20. Avengers 272 Under Siege
  21. Avengers 273 Under Siege
  22. Avengers 274 Under Siege
  23. Avengers 275 Under Siege
  24. Avengers 276 Under Siege
  25. Avengers 277 Under Siege
  26. Captain America 332 Cap resigns
  27. Captain America Annual 8 Wolverine
  28. Daredevil 227 Frank Miller; Born Again
  29. Daredevil 228 Frank Miller; Born Again
  30. Daredevil 229 Frank Miller; Born Again
  31. Daredevil 230 Frank Miller; Born Again
  32. Daredevil 231 Frank Miller; Born Again
  33. Daredevil 232 Frank Miller; Born Again
  34. Daredevil 233 Frank Miller; Born Again
    Daredevil 248 Wolverine
    Daredevil 249 Wolverine
  35. Daredevil 254 1st Typhoid Mary
  36. Daredevil 257 vs. Punisher
  37. Fantastic Four 286 X-Factor
    Fantastic Four 320 Thing vs. Hulk
  38. Ghost Rider 1
  39. GI Joe 21 1st Storm Shadow; silent issue
  40. GI Joe 25 1st Zartan
  41. GI Joe 26 Origin Snake Eyes
  42. GI Joe 27 Origin Snake Eyes
  43. GI Joe 93 Snake Eyes’ face revealed
  44. Incredible Hulk 330 McFarlane; Ross dies
  45. Incredible Hulk 331 Grey Hulk
  46. Incredible Hulk 340 Hulk vs. Wolverine
  47. Infinity Gauntlet 1
  48. Infinity Gauntlet 2
  49. Infinity Gauntlet 3
  50. Infinity Gauntlet 4
  51. Infinity Gauntlet 5
  52. Infinity Gauntlet 6
  53. Iron Man 282 1st War Machine
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 1
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 2
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 3
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 4
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 5
    Kitty Pryde and Wolverine 6
  54. Longshot 1 1st Longshot
  55. Longshot 2
  56. Longshot 3
  57. Longshot 4
  58. Longshot 5
  59. Longshot 6
  60. Marvel Team-Up 141 1st black costume
  61. The ‘Nam 1st issue
  62. New Mutants 87 1st Cable
  63. New Mutants 98 1st Deadpool
  64. New Mutants 100 1st X-Force
  65. New Mutants Annual 2 1st Psylocke
  66. Punisher Limited Series 1 1st issue
  67. Punisher Limited Series 2
  68. Punisher Limited Series 3
  69. Punisher Limited Series 4
  70. Punisher Limited Series 5
  71. Secret Wars 1 Copper age begins; cross-overs begin
  72. Secret Wars 8 Black costume
  73. Silver Surfer 34
  74. Silver Surfer 35 Thanos
  75. Silver Surfer 50 Thanos
  76. Spectacular Spider-Man 107 Death of Jean DeWolff
  77. Spectacular Spider-Man 131 Kraven
  78. Spectacular Spider-Man 132 Kraven
    Spider-Man 1 Platinum 10,000 copies mailed to retailers
    Spider-Man 1 Gold UPC Less than 10K for Wal-Mart
  79. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine 1 Death of Ned Leeds
  80. Star Wars 107 Final issue; low distribution
  81. Thor 411 1st brief New Warriors
  82. Thor 412 1st New Warriors
  83. Transformers 80 Final issue
  84. Uncanny X-Men 201 1st app Cable as baby
  85. Uncanny X-Men 205 Wolverine by BWSmith
  86. Uncanny X-Men 210 Mutant Massacre
  87. Uncanny X-Men 211 Mutant Massacre
  88. Uncanny X-Men 212 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  89. Uncanny X-Men 213 Mutant Massacre; Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  90. Uncanny X-Men 221 1st Mr. Sinister
  91. Uncanny X-Men 222 Wolverine vs. Sabretooth
  92. Uncanny X-Men 244 1st Jubilee
  93. Uncanny X-Men 248 1st Jim Lee
  94. Uncanny X-Men 266 1st Gambit
  95. Uncanny X-Men 268 Cap, Black Widow, and Wolverine
  96. Uncanny X-Men 282 1st brief Bishop
  97. Uncanny X-Men 283 1st full Bishop
    Uncanny X-Men 297 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 303 Gold Limited
    Uncanny X-Men 307 Gold Limited
  98. Web of Spider-Man 1 Black costume; 1st issue
  99. Web of Spider-Man 18 1st Venom?
  100. Web of Spider-Man 29 Wolverine
  101. Web of Spider-Man 31 Kraven
  102. Web of Spider-Man 32 Kraven
  103. Wolverine 1 1st issue
  104. Wolverine 10 1st battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth
  105. X-Factor 1 1st issue
  106. X-Factor 5 1st brief Apocalypse
  107. X-Factor 6 1st Apocalypse
  108. X-Factor 24 1st Archangel
    X -Men 11 Silver/Platinum 2nd print

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Daredevil 227-233 is definitely quality material, and a game changer.

 

Cutting it off at 231 to make room for Kitty Pride and Wolverine would be a missed opportunity to complete a sweet story arc.

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Daredevil 227-233 is definitely quality material, and a game changer.

 

Cutting it off at 231 to make room for Kitty Pride and Wolverine would be a missed opportunity to complete a sweet story arc.

hm

 

I went off memory on that one. Should've double checked my hardcover. Fixed now.

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I think this list is just about ready. For storylines, my list includes Born Again, Under Siege, Kraven's Last Hunt, Punisher Limited Series, Longshot, and Mutant Massacre. (I've never read the Longshot series, so not sure if it's worth being on here.)

 

What am I missing?

 

Does the Weapon X storyline deserve to be on such a list?

Someone mentioned Scourge from Captain America...is that a good arc?

Or maybe ASM's Gang War?

 

And for single issues, what about New Warriors 1 or Darkhawk 1? These seem to be gaining popularity here, are they deserving?

 

 

 

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