What New 52 books down the road will be worth good money

[kimik]

Are there any new characters that will have significant long term impact within the continuity of the DCU?

Harper Row is a possibility

 

The low print run / damaged print run books (like Nightwing #4) are not keys. In 10 years, there will be no reason to even own those books. Someone who collects everything will want it but those are the people driving up the price now, once they get their copies, what else will hold the value of these books up?

 

For those chasing '1st appearance in the New 52,' that can't be a good long term play. I do see that 1st Silver Age is a big deal for Silver collectors but they don't mention on slabs when someone has their 1st Bronze, Copper, Modern so why would New 52 (a marketing ploy and not an actual Age) matter?

 

Creative team changes shouldn't matter either since DC has flipped the writers/artists on all of their titles (w/ a few exceptions like Batman) so many times that it is laughable. They have even solicited books to retailers and then changed creative teams in the 60 days leading up to the issues release. Has a creative team taken over a book and done something extraordinary with the title? I don't mean taken an unreadable title to 'meets expectations for my $3 a month' levels.

 

 

 

 

I disagree with a couple of your points.

 

The lower supply of some of the #4s in NM due to production/shelf damage will keep the prices high. They also appear to be less plentiful overall than the books around them. FWIW, when I was cleaning out store back stock on Batman and Nightwing around issue 9 or 10 I found three to four times as many #2s, 3s, 5s and 6s as I did #4 on either book. Collectors will pay a premium as those books are harder to find overall relative to the others. Look at ASM #430 and 431 as an example. Low print run, mediocre story, and still a nice premium.

 

The market has decided that creative teams do matter if they are top notch (especially artists). Look at O'Neil/Adams work, Byrne/Claremont, Miller, Moore, Lee, McFarlane, etc. The Snyder run on Detective sells for a good premium due to the stories, just like a lot of other high demand Batman arcs like Miller's Year One, Death in the Family, or Hush. We see this in other titles as well. Collectors will pay a premium on the top end New 52 stuff 10 years from now just like they do for other top end runs from the 70s, 80s, 90s due to demand.

 

Also, there are 1st appearances mentioned on slabs post Silver Age DCs. Batman #234 is one that comes to mind right now as I have had a few over the years. I believe there are others as well, but I can't place them.

 

So every book that < O'Neil/Adams work, Byrne/Claremont, Miller, Moore, Lee, McFarlane > were apart of were KEYS?? This topic was created with the question "What New 52 books do you consider a key?" I read other's responses and was simply stating that of those books mentioned, none of them were really KEYS.

 

There are definitely books in the new 52 that will be collected and continue to sell for good money. That does not make them KEYS. Had this topic been about which New 52 books should I be looking to buy at cover and flip over the next 10 years for a good profit, I could list 20+ books that would probably be safe bets. Of those 20+ books, nearly all of them don't qualify as KEY.

 

Sorry, I was replying to your post, not the whole keys question. In the original one you said that the #4s would not have anything to hold their value up in 10 years. I also was referring to your comments about creative team switches. They do matter in the long run.

 

As far as keys, the only thing I have read that might come close 10 years from now would be the Court of Owls/Talon storyline from Batman #1-11 if it is still a big piece of the Batman mythos.

[Lazyboy]

Look at ASM #430 and 431 as an example. Low print run, mediocre story, and still a nice premium.

 

Comparing issues of the most collected title in comics, featuring a popular villain (Carnage) AND the Silver Surfer to a random issue of NIGHTWING. Good argument

[kimik]

Look at ASM #430 and 431 as an example. Low print run, mediocre story, and still a nice premium.

 

Comparing issues of the most collected title in comics, featuring a popular villain (Carnage) AND the Silver Surfer to a random issue of NIGHTWING. Good argument

 

There are plenty of other Carnage appearances in ASM and associated titles that do not sell for cover at shows or online. ASM #430 and #431 are perceived to be lower print/harder to find and that is the main reason they sell for a premium. I will say that in collections I have bought over the past few years the later ASM runs are usually missing these issues as well as a few surrounding ones.

[Gunnz]

So, this thread got a little heated and side tracked....

 

I'm a modern collector for the most part, and I think that if DC maintains the N52 as the ongoing DC universe for the next few decades, there will be a lot of high value books due to low print runs, variants, creative teams and which books don't get cancelled.

 

If they change the universe again, that's another story.

 

Don't know if that helped, but best of luck!!!

 

Gunnz

[Calpounder]

the New 52 hangs around for many years.

[Jackhartmann]

Are N52 books significant in the long run?

 

Or after the inevitable retcon, they will be reduced to the same stature as COIE, Zero Hour, Superman Birthright, Man of Steel? All retcon and origin issues that are irrelevant in the present DCU.

 

I agree. I would not be holding much other than Batman #1 in the DC universe.

[darkstar]

Are N52 books significant in the long run?

 

Or after the inevitable retcon, they will be reduced to the same stature as COIE, Zero Hour, Superman Birthright, Man of Steel? All retcon and origin issues that are irrelevant in the present DCU.

 

I agree. I would not be holding much other than Batman #1 in the DC universe.

 

JLD #1 is a great book to be holding

[kimik]

 

JLD #1 is a great book to be holding

 

And accumulating while it is still cheap. (thumbs u

[Heronext]

Are N52 books significant in the long run?

 

Or after the inevitable retcon, they will be reduced to the same stature as COIE, Zero Hour, Superman Birthright, Man of Steel? All retcon and origin issues that are irrelevant in the present DCU.

 

I agree. I would not be holding much other than Batman #1 in the DC universe.

 

JLD #1 is a great book to be holding

 

I like JLD 1. I also like Starling. The Detective run has a lot of first appearances (I mean new characters not retreads).