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Shill.....?

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Glynn Sr

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Been trying a few time to win some Auction on ebay with the same seller. But it seem that with every listing the seller has a bidder with a 4 rating get in the mix. Even at time the bidder with a 4 rating win the Auction. But they never get feedback.

 

Could this be a Shill ?.... is there enough proof ?

 

 

Present listing:

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291113207737

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291113208377

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301141120063

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301138266652

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301138269453

 

Past listing:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-1-Mole-ComicCon-Exclusive-Variant-Kamite-Mexican-LTD-2000-/301128052020

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291092310681

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301137295570

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jaybuck43

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I'd say almost definitely a shill. Over the last 30 days the 4's bids are 100% with the seller, so he put in 111 bids and they were ONLY with the seller. O and 1 bid retractions from that seller.

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kav

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How does this work-if the shill is winning all the auctions what's the point?

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Glynn Sr

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How does this work-if the shill is winning all the auctions what's the point?

 

To show value for a item. clearly they want more money for a item. sadly winning that item was at play there.

 

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Glynn Sr

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I think eBay anonymises buyers.. I lost many bids to e****o, but I highly doubt it's the same person every time.

 

You could be right. however its every listing this seller has plus it been with past items. I don't have them all listed. but ever since the Walking dead hit ebay back in early February I been seeing the same bidder with the same feedback rating. at this point its pretty clear it the same bidder.

 

 

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Glynn Sr

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Been trying a few time to win some Auction on ebay with the same seller. But it seem that with every listing the seller has a bidder with a 4 rating get in the mix. Even at time the bidder with a 4 rating win the Auction. But they never get feedback.

 

Could this be a Shill ?.... is there enough proof ?

 

 

Present listing:

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291113207737

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291113208377

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301141120063

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301138266652

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301138269453

 

Past listing:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-1-Mole-ComicCon-Exclusive-Variant-Kamite-Mexican-LTD-2000-/301128052020

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=291092310681

 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=301137295570

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I think eBay anonymises buyers.. I lost many bids to e****o, but I highly doubt it's the same person every time.

 

The bidder's actual IDs are scrambled. In your case e****o isn't the censored version of the real ebay ID, nor does the real ebay ID begin the letter "e" and end with the letter "o". However, the real ebay user ID is always assigned to that scrambled e****o ID from listing to listing and the feedback number attached to the e****o ID is the same feedback number attached to the real ID. So yes your numerous losses to e****o are very likely the same person. Obviously there is a degree of probability that they are different but highly unlikely.

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1dingo

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Report the items as fraudulent and eBay will delete his account. He will most likely just start another account but his several years of feedback will be gone. Wish PayPal would get involved on some kind of restitution for the listings these people shill up.

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Report the items as fraudulent and eBay will delete his account. He will most likely just start another account but his several years of feedback will be gone. Wish PayPal would get involved on some kind of restitution for the listings these people shill up.

I perused the 'kicked off ebay and paypal' forum and it's not such an easy thing to get back on....you should hear the crying that goes on over there....

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-suspensions/

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1dingo

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Report the items as fraudulent and eBay will delete his account. He will most likely just start another account but his several years of feedback will be gone. Wish PayPal would get involved on some kind of restitution for the listings these people shill up.

I perused the 'kicked off ebay and paypal' forum and it's not such an easy thing to get back on....you should hear the crying that goes on over there....

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-suspensions/

 

Seems like the should name their guides "Shillin for dummies" :facepalm:

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