Bronze Age Keys -The List!

[Zonker]

 

I actually think the case for Tec 400 is kinda weak. It does have a cool cover, but really-- if we're going to single out anniversary issues-- then also include X-men 100, ASM 100, FF 100 etc. etc. etc.

[Foolkiller]

My initial list was just the list I came up with off the top of my head. The whole idea is to both add (and subtract) from the list. 1st Phoenix is definitely a key. But I also think of Tec 400 as well, and Hero for Hire #1.

[Tango 'n Cash]

1st Phoenix is definitely a key. But I also think of Tec 400 as well, and Hero for Hire #1.

 

I am not disagreeing with these selections. Only that if you include TEC 400, Iron Fist 1 & 15, MTU 53, X-Men 108 and some of the others, why is a true key first appearance like X-Men 101 not there?

[whetteon]

1st Issue Special 8

All Star Wester 10

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194

American Splender 1

Astonishing Tales 25

Avengers 93

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1, 23, 24

Daredevil 131,158, 168, 181

Detective 400 ( CANIDATE FOR REMOVAL? )

Ghost Rider 1

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76, 86

Hero For Hire 1

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181, 182

Iron Fist 1, 14, 15

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 133, 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1, 53

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28

Superman 233

Swamp Thing 1

Tomb of Dracula 1, 10

Werewolf 32

Wierd War Tales 1

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, 122, 137

 

To answer a previous question, I think X-Men 101 is popular right now due to movie speculation more so then a key book of the bronze age. Why the 1st apperance of phoenix is not considered of major importantance is unknown to me and yet past bronze age key list never mentioned it. So I assume there is a reason for that. However, I'm willing to add it for now.

[awe4one]

Ok...here's my chop on your list

 

1st Issue Special 8 YES

All Star Wester 10 YES

Amazing Adventures 11 YES

 

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194 YES Though I have issues with #194 being key...the Black Cat isn't all that special.

 

American Splender 1 YES if truly a Bronze Age comic

 

Astonishing Tales 25 YES

Avengers 93 YES

 

Batman 232, 234, YES 251 NO Is there really a reason for this other than being an Adams Joker? Doesn't near meet the criteria in my opinion other than someone thinks it's cool.

 

Cerebus 1 YES Definitely

 

Conan 1, 23, 24 YES

Daredevil 131,158, 168, 181 YES

Detective 400 ( CANDIDATE FOR REMOVAL? ) NO

 

Ghost Rider 1 YES

Giant Sized X-Men 1 YES

Green Lantern 76, 86 YES

Hero For Hire 1 YES Minor key at best

House of Secrets 92 If you mean #82 then YES

 

Hulk 180, 181, 182 YES Though I wouldn't add 182...

 

Iron Fist 1, NO Why? Because it's a first issue? Please...where is The CAT or Night Nurse or Spider-Woman.. 14, 15 YES

Iron Man 55 YES

Jimmy Olsen 133, 134 YES

Marvel Feature 1 YES

Marvel Premiere 1, 15 YES

Marvel Special Edition 15 YES

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5 YES

Marvel Team Up 1, 53 YES

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 YES

Superman 233 YES

Swamp Thing 1 YES

Tomb of Dracula 1, 10 YES

Werewolf 32 YES

Wierd War Tales 1 YES

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, 122, 137 YES

 

Jim

[Zonker]

Batman 232, 234, YES 251 NO

Is there really a reason for this other than being an Adams Joker? Doesn't near meet the criteria in my opinion other than someone thinks it's cool.

 

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Detective 400 ( CANDIDATE FOR REMOVAL? ) NO

 

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House of Secrets 92 If you mean #82 then YES

 

Jim

 

So this is a fun discussion, but really, how can whet's goal of an "accurate list" ever be achieved with the criteria for key-ness so squishy?

 

But it's fun to debate, and that's what these threads are for, so here goes:

 

I think Bat 251 is at least as important as Bat 234. 234 is the first "modern" Two-Face, though there was that 1960s World's Finest with someone impersonating the Two-Face character. 251 is the first version of the Joker as a homocidal maniac since the Golden Age. Clownish Silver Age Joker appearances need not apply. So it's not only the Adams art, but the character treatment by O'Neil that makes this one important. (Is it key? I dunno, someone define key...)

 

...which brings us to Detective.

 

I'm fine to cross 400 off the list, but I'd still argue the really important book is the first O'Neil/Adams collaboration in 395. This book brings supernatural themes into the strip, drives the final nail in to the Adam West version of Batman, and sets the stage for the later Frank Miller treatment. If X-Men 108 is important for the first Clarement/Byrne X-Men, then Tec 395 is equally important as the first O'Neil/Adams Batman. (The earlier Adams B&Bs are analogous to the early Byrne MTUs )

 

And, HoS 92 is the first Swamp Thing.

[awe4one]

I think Bat 251 is at least as important as Bat 234. 234 is the first "modern" Two-Face, though there was that 1960s World's Finest with someone impersonating the Two-Face character. 251 is the first version of the Joker as a homocidal maniac since the Golden Age. Clownish Silver Age Joker appearances need not apply. So it's not only the Adams art, but the character treatment by O'Neil that makes this one important. (Is it key? I dunno, someone define key...)

 

I'll concede to your superior intellect when discussing all things Bats...Honestly I've never looked at it from that aspect...

 

I'm fine to cross 400 off the list, but I'd still argue the really important book is the first O'Neil/Adams collaboration in 395.

 

I agree 100%...add it.

 

And, HoS 92 is the first Swamp Thing.

 

Oh Jeez...I know that!

 

It's Christmas stress I tell you...that's what it is....

 

Jim

[Zonker]

Aw, shucks!

[FlyingDonut]

Here's my chop. Remember - the list of KEYS should be short!

 

1st Issue Special 8 NO Unfortunately, not a key.

All Star Western 10 NO Jonah Hex? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Amazing Adventures 11 YES

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194 YES

American Splendor 1 YES

Astonishing Tales 25 NO Deathlok? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Avengers 93 NO Why is this on the list?

Batman 232, 234, 251 NO

Cerebus 1 YES

Conan 1, YES

23, 24 NO Red Sonja = The Black Panther. Is FF 52 a "Key"? No.

Daredevil 131 NO ,158 NO 168, 181 YES

Detective 400 NO

Ghost Rider 1 NO

Giant Sized X-Men 1 YES

Green Lantern 76 YES , 86 NO Why NO and Amazing 96-98? Because Amazing 96-98 changed the Comics Code. This book, while cool, didn't do anything.

Hero For Hire 1 NO Not in the same league

House of Secrets 82 YES

Hulk 180, 181, YES 182 NO 182 is a nothing book.

Iron Fist 1, NO 14, YES

15 NO Why Iron Fist 15? I can't think of any reason to have it on the list.

Iron Man 55 YES

Jimmy Olsen 133 NO If no New Gods, etc. then no Jimmy 133, 134 , first Darkseid... YES

Marvel Feature 1 YES

Marvel Premiere 1, 15 YES

Marvel Special Edition 15 YES

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5 YES

Marvel Team Up 1 YES , 53 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 NO Cool books, but KEYS

Superman 233 YES

Swamp Thing 1 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Tomb of Dracula 1 NO Cancelled series with little lasting impact, 10 first Blade YES

Werewolf 32 NO First appearance of a MINOR character who fails in every series. Definitly NOT a key.

Wierd War Tales 1 NO Why is this a key? Little or no lasting impact.

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, YES , 122, NO assuming this is just a typo, 137 YES

 

So my list, which is still too long:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194

American Splendor 1

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 10

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

[october]

Here's my chop. Remember - the list of KEYS should be short!

 

1st Issue Special 8 NO Unfortunately, not a key.

All Star Western 10 NO Jonah Hex? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Amazing Adventures 11 YES

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194 YES

American Splendor 1 YES

Astonishing Tales 25 NO Deathlok? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Avengers 93 NO Why is this on the list?

Batman 232, 234, 251 NO

Cerebus 1 YES

Conan 1, YES

23, 24 NO Red Sonja = The Black Panther. Is FF 52 a "Key"? No.

Daredevil 131 NO ,158 NO 168, 181 YES

Detective 400 NO

Ghost Rider 1 NO

Giant Sized X-Men 1 YES

Green Lantern 76 YES , 86 NO Why NO and Amazing 96-98? Because Amazing 96-98 changed the Comics Code. This book, while cool, didn't do anything.

Hero For Hire 1 NO Not in the same league

House of Secrets 82 YES

Hulk 180, 181, YES 182 NO 182 is a nothing book.

Iron Fist 1, NO 14, YES

15 NO Why Iron Fist 15? I can't think of any reason to have it on the list.

Iron Man 55 YES

Jimmy Olsen 133 NO If no New Gods, etc. then no Jimmy 133, 134 , first Darkseid... YES

Marvel Feature 1 YES

Marvel Premiere 1, 15 YES

Marvel Special Edition 15 YES

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5 YES

Marvel Team Up 1 YES , 53 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 NO Cool books, but KEYS

Superman 233 YES

Swamp Thing 1 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Tomb of Dracula 1 NO Cancelled series with little lasting impact, 10 first Blade YES

Werewolf 32 NO First appearance of a MINOR character who fails in every series. Definitly NOT a key.

Wierd War Tales 1 NO Why is this a key? Little or no lasting impact.

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, YES , 122, NO assuming this is just a typo, 137 YES

 

So my list, which is still too long:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194

American Splendor 1

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 10

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

 

I agree with the vast majority of your cuts, the list was too long. However, you seem to be kinda biased for the ASM issues. 101 (first Morbius) and 194 (first Black Cat) are no more important than some of the first appearances you removed, like first Deathlok, Bullseye or Jonah Hex. I would argue that those five characters are pretty much indistinguishable in their importance, with all pretty much being second tier charaters. If you remove one, you should remove them all. I would put all 5 before Amazing Adventures 11 as well. Furry Beast? Did that have a bigger impact on the Marvel universe than Deathlok or Bullseye? I don't think so. I never understood the high prices that book realizes, AA 11 seems grossly inflated in value to me.

 

Personally, I would take out Superman 233 too. Why is that a key? Because it has a cool cover? Nothing of much importance happened in that issue, certaintly nothing important enough to warrant key status. If that is included I would argue that Batman 227 should be on there too, which has a cover just as nice.

[FlyingDonut]

Here's my chop. Remember - the list of KEYS should be short!

 

1st Issue Special 8 NO Unfortunately, not a key.

All Star Western 10 NO Jonah Hex? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Amazing Adventures 11 YES

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194 YES

American Splendor 1 YES

Astonishing Tales 25 NO Deathlok? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Avengers 93 NO Why is this on the list?

Batman 232, 234, 251 NO

Cerebus 1 YES

Conan 1, YES

23, 24 NO Red Sonja = The Black Panther. Is FF 52 a "Key"? No.

Daredevil 131 NO ,158 NO 168, 181 YES

Detective 400 NO

Ghost Rider 1 NO

Giant Sized X-Men 1 YES

Green Lantern 76 YES , 86 NO Why NO and Amazing 96-98? Because Amazing 96-98 changed the Comics Code. This book, while cool, didn't do anything.

Hero For Hire 1 NO Not in the same league

House of Secrets 82 YES

Hulk 180, 181, YES 182 NO 182 is a nothing book.

Iron Fist 1, NO 14, YES

15 NO Why Iron Fist 15? I can't think of any reason to have it on the list.

Iron Man 55 YES

Jimmy Olsen 133 NO If no New Gods, etc. then no Jimmy 133, 134 , first Darkseid... YES

Marvel Feature 1 YES

Marvel Premiere 1, 15 YES

Marvel Special Edition 15 YES

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5 YES

Marvel Team Up 1 YES , 53 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 NO Cool books, but KEYS

Superman 233 YES

Swamp Thing 1 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Tomb of Dracula 1 NO Cancelled series with little lasting impact, 10 first Blade YES

Werewolf 32 NO First appearance of a MINOR character who fails in every series. Definitly NOT a key.

Wierd War Tales 1 NO Why is this a key? Little or no lasting impact.

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, YES , 122, NO assuming this is just a typo, 137 YES

 

So my list, which is still too long:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 97, 98, 101, 121, 122, 129, 136, 194

American Splendor 1

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 10

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

 

I agree with the vast majority of your cuts, the list was too long. However, you seem to be kinda biased for the ASM issues. 101 (first Morbius) and 194 (first Black Cat) are no more important than some of the first appearances you removed, like first Deathlok, Bullseye or Jonah Hex. I would argue that those five characters are pretty much indistinguishable in their importance, with all pretty much being second tier charaters. If you remove one, you should remove them all. I would put all 5 before Amazing Adventures 11 as well. Furry Beast? Did that have a bigger impact on the Marvel universe than Deathlok or Bullseye? I don't think so. I never understood the high prices that book realizes, AA 11 seems grossly inflated in value to me.

 

Personally, I would take out Superman 233 too. Why is that a key? Because it has a cool cover? Nothing of much importance happened in that issue, certaintly nothing important enough to warrant key status. If that is included I would argue that Batman 227 should be on there too, which has a cover just as nice.

 

More chopping. Superman 233 stays because its the first "Bronze Age" Superman - and is a true break from the Silver Age. I'd add Batman 217, first "Bronze Age" Batman.

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 121, 122, 129, 136

American Splendor 1

Batman 217, 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 10

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

[october]

 

More chopping. Superman 233 stays because its the first "Bronze Age" Superman - and is a true break from the Silver Age. I'd add Batman 217, first "Bronze Age" Batman.

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 121, 122, 129, 136

American Splendor 1

Batman 217, 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 10

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

 

I would dump Batman 217, it is nowhere close to a key. The Superman 233 is iffy, but I can see it. I wouldn't feel compelled to put Bats 217 in there just to balance out the Superman. I would also dump AA 11 and put TOD 1 back in there (and maybe ASW 10), but I can see it either way. Otherwise, great list! It gets my vote!

[whetteon]

FlyingDonut, I enjoyed your cuts in order to make this list much simplier. I only have a few complaints.

 

1st Issue Special 8 NOUnfortunately, not a key.

All Star Western 10 NO Jonah Hex? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Amazing Adventures 11 YES

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 121, 122, 129, 136 YES

American Splendor 1 YES

Astonishing Tales 25 NO Deathlok? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key.

Avengers 93 NO Why is this on the list?

Batman 217, 232, 234, 251 YES

Cerebus 1 YES

Conan 1, YES

23, 24 NO Red Sonja = The Black Panther. Is FF 52 a "Key"? No.

Daredevil 131 NO ,158 NO 168, 181 YES

Detective 400 NO

Ghost Rider 1 NO

Giant Sized X-Men 1 YES

Green Lantern 76 YES, 86 NO Why NO and Amazing 96-98? Because Amazing 96-98 changed the Comics Code. This book, while cool, didn't do anything.

Hero For Hire 1 NO Not in the same league

House of Secrets 82 YES

Hulk 180, 181, YES 182 NO 182 is a nothing book.

Iron Fist 1, NO 14, YES

15 NO Why Iron Fist 15? I can't think of any reason to have it on the list.

Iron Man 55 YES

Jimmy Olsen 133 NO If no New Gods, etc. then no Jimmy 133, 134 , first Darkseid... YES

Marvel Feature 1 YES

Marvel Premiere 1, 15 YES

Marvel Special Edition 15 YES

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5 YES

Marvel Team Up 1 YES , 53 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 NO Cool books, but KEYS

Superman 233 YES

Swamp Thing 1 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Tomb of Dracula 1 YES Re-intro of Marvel Horror. 10 NO First appearance of a MINOR character

Werewolf 32 NO First appearance of a MINOR character who fails in every series. Definitly NOT a key.

Wierd War Tales 1 NO Why is this a key? Little or no lasting impact.

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, NO First appearance of a MINOR team who fails in every series , 122, NO assuming this is just a typo, 137 YES

 

So my list is:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 121, 122, 129, 136

American Splendor 1

Batman 217, 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 1

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 137

 

Almost identical. Because I thought the cuts were right on the money.

[Zonker]

So my list is:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 96, 121, 122, 129, 136

American Splendor 1

Batman 217, 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 168, 181

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Jimmy Olsen 134

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 1, 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 1

Superman 233

Tomb of Dracula 1

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 137

 

Almost identical. Because I thought the cuts were right on the money.

 

It is a good list. But as much as I respect Flying Donut's opinion, I think he's all wrong on the Batman 217 question. Why? 'Cause it's a 1969 book, therefore not Bronze Age (& believe me you don't want to get us started on that one again! ) Batman 217 closed the curtain on the Silver Age Bats as Robin goes off to college. Then, by the time 1970 rolls around with Detective 395 and Batman 219, you have Neal Adams drawing the strip, and the Bronze Age version of the character has really arrived. Batman 218 was a reprint Giant so it doesn't count. I choose to ignore Detective 394.

 

Ok, I'm done.

[shrunkenhead]

 

 

 

Wierd War Tales 1 NO Why is this a key? Little or no lasting impact.

 

 

How can WWT #1 get a "no!?" It's arguably the first bronze age book. In the world of silver, Showcase #4 is a double-whammy because it's arguably the first SA flash plus the unofficial kick-off of the silver age. So WWT #1 is half this equation...and it can't get a mention?

[blowout]

My list:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 121, 122, 129, 136

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 131, 168

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

Hero For Hire 1

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 53

Superman 233

Swamp Thing 1

Tomb of Dracula 10, 13

Werewolf 32

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, 137

 

[blowout]

but really, how can whet's goal of an "accurate list" ever be achieved with the criteria for key-ness so squishy?

 

That's why a definitive list has never been published. Everyone has their own opinion, and a lot of books that are 'key' today, won't be tomorrow.

[THE_BEYONDER]

My list:

 

Amazing Adventures 11

Amazing Spider-Man 121, 122, 129, 136

Batman 232, 234, 251

Cerebus 1

Conan 1

Daredevil 131, 168

Giant Sized X-Men 1

Green Lantern 76

Hero For Hire 1

House of Secrets 92

Hulk 180, 181

Iron Fist 14

Iron Man 55

Marvel Feature 1

Marvel Premiere 15

Marvel Special Edition 15

Marvel Spotlight 2, 5

Marvel Team Up 53

Superman 233

Swamp Thing 1

Tomb of Dracula 10, 13

Werewolf 32

X-Men 94, 101, 108, 121, 137

 

 

If you don't consider DD 158 a key, then why do you consider X-MEN 108 one?

 

I see that you included MTU 53....but not IF 15.

[THE_BEYONDER]

Astonishing Tales 25 NO Deathlok? Because a book sells for a lot doesn't make it a key. 1st Perez work at Marvel?

15 NO Why Iron Fist 15? I can't think of any reason to have it on the list. Byrne's 2nd work on the X-MEN?

Marvel Team Up 1 YES , 53 NO Cool book, but not a KEY

Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man 27, 28 NO Cool books, but KEYS How are Byrne's 1st work on the X-MEN & Miller's 1st work on DD not keys?

X-Men 94, 101,108, 121,137

The 1st appearance of Alpha Flight is a key, but 109 isn't? Without Vindicator...no Alpha Flight.

[blowout]

 

If you don't consider DD 158 a key, then why do you consider X-MEN 108 one?

 

I see that you included MTU 53....but not IF 15.

 

You have brilliantly helped me illustrate the point I was tring to make.

 

There is NO definitive list.