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IF U HAD A CHOICE BETWEEN.........................

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jbud73

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HERES a dream scenario:

 

if u had the chance and the available dollars would u rather buy capt tripps FF cgc'd run ie 9.4 or better or go for superman 1-10 in cgc 7.5 all issues

 

Ouch are we ever on a different wave length.

 

My least favorite Main stream Marvel Titles and My least favorite Mainstream DC hero. I would have to say the FF run if forced at gunpoint. Some of the Surfer Covers and stories are cool. tonofbricks.gif

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HERES a dream scenario:

 

if u had the chance and the available dollars would u rather buy capt tripps FF cgc'd run ie 9.4 or better or go for superman 1-10 in cgc 7.5 all issues

 

Ouch are we ever on a different wave length.

 

My least favorite Main stream Marvel Titles and My least favorite Mainstream DC hero. I would have to say the FF run if forced at gunpoint. Some of the Surfer Covers and stories are cool. tonofbricks.gif

 

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Nothing's wrong with me. Superman will always remind me of Jhettero Heller (sp?) from L. Ron Hubbard's Mission Earth Series IE the Annoyingly perfect boy scout who has the depth of a droplette of water.

 

As for the FF, the only thing cool about the FF is Doctor Doom. I mean Mr. fantastic and Sue Richards have crappy powers, Johnny is the petulant whinning teenager you want to smack into next week. Ben Grimm is pretty cool but not enough to garner interest. I've read the 48-5 whatever storyline with Galactus and the Surfer, which was ok. The "This man this monster" story was Ok too, but I really never got into the FF.

 

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Guess I'd rather have the choice between the First 10 Batman Issues and the first 100 ASM's

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Jolly Roger-migration

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you can have your opinion. I was kidding.

 

But don't say Sue has "crappy powers" - she, by far, is the strongest member. Read Fantastic Four 245. You'll see what I mean.

 

I can't remember FF245, but isn't said that she has the most potential. She isn't really the strongest, but could be. Her powers are very similar to Green Lantern, based on will power. In times of duress her powers could either increase or wane based upon the situation. If she was fatigued that would reduce her effectiveness. IF she felt her family was in mortal danger her power would increase.

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I'd go for Supes. It'd impress people more..........

 

I'd go for the FFs because I think they're probably worth more.

 

If it turns out that I'm wrong about that, I'd go for the Supes.

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I'd go for Supes. It'd impress people more..........

 

I'd go for the FFs because I think they're probably worth more.

 

If it turns out that I'm wrong about that, I'd go for the Supes.

 

I wonder what would go for more. There's only one slabbed Supes #1 7.5, and only one copy graded higher at 8.0.

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I'd go for Supes. It'd impress people more..........

 

I'd go for the FFs because I think they're probably worth more.

 

If it turns out that I'm wrong about that, I'd go for the Supes.

 

I wonder what would go for more. There's only one slabbed Supes #1 7.5, and only one copy graded higher at 8.0.

 

Here are Doug's books, with my reasonable (but not overly conservative) estimates of what certain keys are worth:

 

Fantastic Four 1 9.6 ($200,000)

Fantastic Four 2 9.4 ($75,000)

Fantastic Four 3 9.0 ($6,000)

Fantastic Four 4 9.6 ($17,000)

Fantastic Four 5 9.4 ($40,000)

Fantastic Four 6 9.6 ($25,000)

Fantastic Four 7 9.4 ($10,000)

Fantastic Four 8 9.6 ($13,000)

Fantastic Four 9 9.6 ($15,000)

Fantastic Four 10 9.6 ($13,000)

Fantastic Four 11 9.4 ($10,000)

Fantastic Four 12 9.4 ($30,000)

Fantastic Four 13 9.4 ($10,000)

Fantastic Four 14 9.6

Fantastic Four 15 9.6

Fantastic Four 16 9.6

Fantastic Four 17 9.4

Fantastic Four 18 9.8

Fantastic Four 19 9.6

Fantastic Four 20 9.4

Fantastic Four 21 9.8 ($5,000)

Fantastic Four 22 9.4

Fantastic Four 23 9.6

Fantastic Four 24 9.6

Fantastic Four 25 9.6 ($10,000)

Fantastic Four 26 9.6

Fantastic Four 27 9.6

Fantastic Four 28 9.6

Fantastic Four 29 9.4

Fantastic Four 30 9.8

Fantastic Four 31 9.4

Fantastic Four 32 9.8

Fantastic Four 33 9.6

Fantastic Four 34 9.4

Fantastic Four 35 9.8

Fantastic Four 36 9.6

Fantastic Four 37 9.4

Fantastic Four 38 9.6

Fantastic Four 39 9.6

Fantastic Four 40 9.6

Fantastic Four 41 9.8

Fantastic Four 42 9.8

Fantastic Four 43 9.6

Fantastic Four 44 9.8

Fantastic Four 45 9.8

Fantastic Four 46 9.8

Fantastic Four 47 9.8

Fantastic Four 48 9.8 ($15,000

Fantastic Four 49 9.6 ($4,500)

Fantastic Four 50 9.6 ($5,000)

Fantastic Four 51 9.4

Fantastic Four 52 9.6 ($3,000)

Fantastic Four 53 9.6

Fantastic Four 54 9.6

Fantastic Four 55 9.9 hail.gifhail.gif ($10,000)

Fantastic Four 56 9.4

Fantastic Four 57 9.6

Fantastic Four 58 9.8

Fantastic Four 59 9.8

Fantastic Four 60 9.8

Fantastic Four 61 9.8

Fantastic Four 62 9.6

Fantastic Four 63 9.6

Fantastic Four 64 9.8

Fantastic Four 65 9.8

Fantastic Four 66 9.8

Fantastic Four 67 9.8

Fantastic Four 68 9.8

Fantastic Four 69 9.8

Fantastic Four 70 9.6

Fantastic Four 71 9.6

Fantastic Four 72 9.6

Fantastic Four 73 9.8

Fantastic Four 74 9.6

Fantastic Four 75 9.6

Fantastic Four 76 9.8

Fantastic Four 77 9.6

Fantastic Four 78 9.6

Fantastic Four 79 9.6

Fantastic Four 80 9.6

Fantastic Four 81 9.8

Fantastic Four 82 9.6

Fantastic Four 83 9.6

Fantastic Four 84 9.6

Fantastic Four 85 9.8

Fantastic Four 86 9.6

Fantastic Four 87 9.8

Fantastic Four 88 9.8

Fantastic Four 89 9.6

Fantastic Four 90 9.8

Fantastic Four 91 9.8

Fantastic Four 92 9.6

Fantastic Four 93 9.6

Fantastic Four 94 9.6

Fantastic Four 95 9.6

Fantastic Four 96 9.6

Fantastic Four 97 9.8

Fantastic Four 98 9.6

Fantastic Four 99 9.6

Fantastic Four 100 9.6

 

So, just for the ones where I estimated the values, we're at $516,500. And that leaves the bulk of the collection unvalued.

 

If you value the Superman 1-10 in CGC 7.5 as follows:

 

Superman #1 $350,000

Superman #2 $18,000

Superman #3 $8,000

Superman #4 $7,000

Superman #5 $4,000

Superman #6 $3,000

Superman #7 $2,500

Superman #8 $2,000

Superman #9 $2,000

Superman #10 $1,800

 

So the value of Superman 1-10 in CGC 7.5 would be approximately $398,300.

 

I'd take the FFs hands down.

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fantastic_four

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I wonder what would go for more. There's only one slabbed Supes #1 7.5, and only one copy graded higher at 8.0.

 

Superman 1 7.5 probably would, although not by a lot, i.e. multiples of an FF #1 9.4. Didn't Lauterbach sell a Superman 1 CGC 7.5 last year? Anybody remember the amount?

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I wonder what would go for more. There's only one slabbed Supes #1 7.5, and only one copy graded higher at 8.0.

 

Superman 1 7.5 probably would, although not by a lot, i.e. multiples of an FF #1 9.4. Didn't Lauterbach sell a Superman 1 CGC 7.5 last year? Anybody remember the amount?

 

Didn't Bechara pay $275K for the Church copy of Superman #1 in 7.5? I know it had a dot of CT to it, but still.

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Didn't Bechara pay $275K for the Church copy of Superman #1 in 7.5? I know it had a dot of CT to it, but still.

 

I don't recall hearing the amount--was it really that much? I thought he bought it a while back prior to CGC. Back in 2000/2001, I thought the most ever paid for a comic was $265K for the Allentown Cap 1 CGC 9.6.

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Didn't Bechara pay $275K for the Church copy of Superman #1 in 7.5? I know it had a dot of CT to it, but still.

 

I don't recall hearing the amount--was it really that much? I thought he bought it a while back prior to CGC. Back in 2000/2001, I thought the most ever paid for a comic was $265K for the Allentown Cap 1 CGC 9.6.

 

I went back and checked. He paid $240K for it, which Steve Fishler said was too much. It is an 8.0. So my $350K estimate for Superman #1 is way too high, and makes the case for choosing the FF run even more clear.

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Where did you check? Did it say how long ago he bought it?

 

I'd be surprised if that book hit $150K today, unless the restoration is extremely slight and removable.

 

There is an old thread on the boards. I used the search function.

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fantastic_four

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Do you remember who said it was $240K? I found the post from Fishler, but he didn't mention a price, just that it was too much. I saw one from Aman saying $240K, and one from Aardvark88 saying he read an article in CBG saying it sold for $180K in 1996. I glanced back at an old Overstreet, and #26 (the 1996 edition) says it sold for $170K--could that be $180K with time payment interest? confused-smiley-013.gif

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Oh, and can somebody look at the 2004 Overstreet to see if they report the sale price of Lauterbach's Superman 1 CGC 7.5? I left my Overstreet at Kermit's house when I went over there to look at those Rabbi books. Christo_pull_hair.gif

 

The FF 9.4 to compare against is the CGC 9.4 copy of #1 that sold in 2002 at the Mint's only online auction for around $110K.

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Oh, and can somebody look at the 2004 Overstreet to see if they report the sale price of Lauterbach's Superman 1 CGC 7.5? I left my Overstreet at Kermit's house when I went over there to look at those Rabbi books. Christo_pull_hair.gif

 

The FF 9.4 to compare against is the CGC 9.4 copy of #1 that sold in 2002 at the Mint's only online auction for around $110K.

 

OS lists Superman #1 VF- CGC (7.5) $186,000

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OS lists Superman #1 VF- CGC (7.5) $186,000

 

Ah, excellent! I suspect an FF #1 CGC 9.4 could go around $120K to $150K today, so it looks like Superman 1 in 7.5 has a slight edge.

 

I expect the edge starts to tip to FF's in 9.4 from #2 on up. I know Mark Wilson bought the White Mountain FF #2 CGC 9.4 in 2001 for around $25K and then sold it to Schmell a few months later for some higher amount; I don't think a Superman #2 in 7.5 would go for that much, would it?

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