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MPAA 2020 report has been posted, containing the Top 20 Streaming Movies.

Movie Picture Association 2020 Theme Report

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For all the crying over Bloodshot and Birds of Prey, they actually made the list. And it is nice to see Midway there as well, as it came and went and didn't hear much about this film.

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With all the talk of physical media going away to keep subscribers locked in on streaming service providers, I took a look at recent home theater sales within the Domestic Market along. Specifically, with MCU and WB/DC films since 2018.

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It's a tough one to pull the entire plug on when you consider even DVD sales makes up 28% to 39% of overall domestic media sales. Let alone blowing it all away and writing off millions of dollars in revenue for the sake of subscriber fees replacement and surpassing media contributions. Spider-Man: Far From Home alone had an additional $62.2M that Sony took in, and no matter what exclusive deal it cut with Disney+ that's a tough pill to swallow.

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On 12/30/2015 at 5:28 PM, Bosco685 said:

Hollywood Accounting: Isn't it as easy as reading a studio's prospectus to figure out profits?

 

How Hollywood Accounting Can Make a $450 Million Movie 'Unprofitable'

 

 

 

Hollywood Accounting: How A $19 Million Movie Makes $150 Million... And Still Isn't Profitable

 

 

 

NPR: We See Angelina's Bottom Line

 

 

 

These are articles about how studios play with their individual movie balance sheets to claim expenses, actors claim salaries not received for negotiation power later on with other movies, or doing all they can to avoid paying royalties.

 

Fun times!

Studio didn't want to pay out revenue shares. So it found creative accounting ways.

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“Bohemian Rhapsody” grossed more than $900 million at the global box office, but the screenwriter says he has not seen a penny of net proceeds, because he was told the film actually lost $51 million.

 

Anthony McCarten, a London-based novelist and playwright who also wrote the scripts for “Darkest Hour” and “The Theory of Everything,” filed the lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court, alleging that he is the latest victim of studio accounting.

 

“Bohemian Rhapsody” tells the story of the band Queen and its frontman, Freddie Mercury. The film cost about $55 million to produce, which would appear to make it incredibly profitable. But the suit contends that Twentieth Century Fox, the distributor and co-producer on the film, has used accounting gimmicks to avoid paying.

 

“If net proceeds don’t pay out on a low-budget film that does nearly a billion dollars at the box office, then they never will,” the suit states.

 

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On 3/11/2020 at 12:12 PM, Bosco685 said:

MPAA has published its 2019 analysis for the domestic theater market.

MPAA THEME Report 2019

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MPAA identifies the larger films for demographic analysis. So it looks like Wonder Woman remains the lone DC or Marvel film where the overall audience was dominated by female movie-goers. Captain Marvel was the normal MCU solo film audience.

It's amazing how generally consistent the overall gender percentages are. I wonder whether this tracks closely with the numbers for all movies.  If, for instance, the average movie draws a similar male/female split, it's hard to conclude anything meaningful from the Marvel numbers.

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On 7/3/2022 at 12:43 PM, MattTheDuck said:

It's amazing how generally consistent the overall gender percentages are. I wonder whether this tracks closely with the numbers for all movies.  If, for instance, the average movie draws a similar male/female split, it's hard to conclude anything meaningful from the Marvel numbers.

MPAA annual reports give you a feel at least domestically what the audience breakout is for the bigger films.

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More about the reporter sites that cover movies an TV shows. I had no idea one company owns all these brands.

PMC - About Us Page

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PMC has been a pioneer in digital media and a platform innovator, reaching viewers on all screens across its ever-growing constellation of iconic brands, which includes:

  1. Variety,
  2. Rolling Stone,
  3. The Hollywood Reporter,
  4. Billboard,
  5. WWD,
  6. SHE Media,
  7. Robb Report,
  8. Deadline,
  9. Sportico,
  10. BGR,
  11. ARTnews,
  12. Fairchild Media,
  13. Vibe,
  14. IndieWire,
  15. Dirt,
  16. Gold Derby,
  17. Spy.com

Among many others. PMC’s journalists and content creators deliver daily the most comprehensive news and information in their industries and areas of coverage, unequaled in ambition, depth, and courage.

No wonder why these sites all quote one another, and many times follow a similar standards pattern.

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On 7/3/2022 at 10:57 AM, Bosco685 said:

MPAA annual reports give you a feel at least domestically what the audience breakout is for the bigger films.

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I wonder how much impact on gender-attendance having the word "woman" in the title provided for WW?  I know it had great word-of-mouf with women generally.

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On 8/7/2022 at 2:56 PM, MattTheDuck said:

I wonder how much impact on gender-attendance having the word "woman" in the title provided for WW?  I know it had great word-of-mouf with women generally.

Not sure how much 'Woman' impacted the WOM compared to the story and representation in general. Otherwise, someone should go back to correct this one.

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Plus overall it received an 'A' Cinemascore from early viewings. Which would be made up of male and female attendees.

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On 10/22/2022 at 1:18 PM, Bosco685 said:

Interesting details, as you hear so often from some how the DVD portion of home theater is dead.

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What's this mean?

% share of units of a dying format sold is irrelevant vs. the total number of units sold - compared to that same total number say, 1, 5, and 10 years ago.

I could post a similar pie chart comparing the current market share of laser discs vs. cassette tapes vs. records.

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On 10/22/2022 at 4:42 PM, Gatsby77 said:

?

What's this mean?

% share of units of a dying format sold is irrelevant vs. the total number of units sold - compared to that same total number say, 1, 5, and 10 years ago.

I could post a similar pie chart comparing the current market share of laser discs vs. cassette tapes vs. records.

You really are goofy at times to prove you know something. Gotta love it.

:roflmao:

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On 10/22/2022 at 5:09 PM, Bosco685 said:

You really are goofy at times to prove you know something. Gotta love it.

:roflmao:

Again, ?

You posted "Interesting details, as you hear so often from some how the DVD portion of home theater is dead."

And then you posted an irrelevant chart that specifically omits the detail necessary to either support or refute that statement.

So...how many collective units of the top 10 (or top 50) sold last week, in all formats?

And how does that compare to 1 year, ago, 5 years ago & 10 years ago?

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On 10/23/2022 at 12:25 AM, Gatsby77 said:

Again, ?

You posted "Interesting details, as you hear so often from some how the DVD portion of home theater is dead."

And then you posted an irrelevant chart that specifically omits the detail necessary to either support or refute that statement.

So...how many collective units of the top 10 (or top 50) sold last week, in all formats?

And how does that compare to 1 year, ago, 5 years ago & 10 years ago?

I wish you were more about healthy and friendly discussion. You aren't.

And that's the shame of it.

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On 10/22/2022 at 11:30 PM, Pitboss said:

Tim Burton Says He’s Done Making Disney Movies, Calls Company a ‘Horrible Big Circus’

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I saw that pop up yesterday. To have such a recognized creator like Burton making such statements was interesting.

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"It's gotten to be very homogenized, very consolidated. There's less room for different types of things," he told Deadline before saying he would never do a Marvel movie at this time. "I can only deal with one universe, l can't deal with a multi-universe."

The social media reaction was rapid how Tim Burton is just jealous of the MCU. Ignoring decades of successful films.

doh!

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When big stars accept lower pay or to ensure their normal rates do not impact the success of their current films.

WHY BRAD PITT AND GEORGE CLOONEY ACCEPTED A LOWER SALARY IN THEIR UPCOMING FILM

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George Clooney is opening up about the reason for accepting a lower salary, revealing that Brad Pitt also agreed to receive less of what he is used to, in order to ensure that their upcoming film would be released.

 

The actor, who once declined a $35 million check for one day of work, says he wanted to make sure the film would be seen in theaters: “We said we’d like to take less as long as we can guarantee that we can have a theatrical release, and they said great.”

A Hollywood Agent Explains How Negotiations Work and Why Actresses Get Paid Less

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How do negotiations work?
When you get an offer, there’s a dollar amount attached. [The studio executives are] like, "Hey, we’re going to pay you X amount of money to be in our movie." And if it’s a high-level star, they’ll offer perks. These are called "deal points." We might be like, "No," "Yes," "Don’t bother coming to us if you have that amount of money."

 

And the dollar amount that’s attached is based on what they have in their budget?
It’s based on whatever they want to pay, essentially. Now, with television — and with feature [films] too, but more specifically with television — it is based on what are known as "quotes." And quotes are whatever [the actor] made before. They will do their research ahead of time: Well, what are their quotes? And sometimes we’ll give them and sometimes we won’t, depending on our strategy.

 

If it’s a small indie but we want a client to do it, and it’s a million-dollar indie, we don’t want to say, "Well, she made $5 million on her last movie." Because then they might not come. They might be like, "Oh, well, we could never get her." We’re like, "No, we want to have a conversation."

10 Times Actors Took A Pay Cut For A Movie

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The perks of being a Hollywood Star are quite obvious. Along with fame, you get millions in earnings each year. For instance, we came to learn that the main cast of the hit sitcom Friends commanded $1 million per episode during its final season. This includes the likes of Jennifer Aniston, Courteney Cox, and David Schwimmer, who went on to become the highest-paid TV actors of all time. Meanwhile, in movies, A-list actors tend to command the highest salaries, often in the range of $20 million. That said, there are some who opted to take a pay cut instead…

 

Ethan Hawke In The Purge

For Hawke, working on the 2013 film was a great way to collaborate with a good friend, The Purge producer Jason Blum. According to a report from The Hollywood Reporter, the actor was paid “almost no money upfront” when he agreed to work on the movie. Hawke also revealed, “there were no perks. No trailer, no driver, no BS, just a great role, a great director.” That said, the actor did earn from the film’s profits. Reports indicate he took home around $2 million.

 

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