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[comix4fun]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

[HarveySwick]

[jop]

I just don't like the word "Manifesto" reminds me of some very ill individuals that committed heinous crimes against humanity.

 

I do not think Rupp is as disturbed as these other individuals but the tracking keeping timelines and the back and forth is tedious at best.

 

That said here are my thoughts/questions although none of them matter:

 

1. Did Rupp create the offensive memes?

2. Were they distributed to board members?

3. Photobucket has default public setting easy to change to private

4. Disturbing as some of the memes are I seriously doubt people are mentally scarred from viewing them.

5. Individuals with enough computer knowledge can and do access private photo albums all over the web and do change things on the photos. (This is not a defense of anyone or a conspiracy theory but a fact that is done daily)

6. The 2 groups seem to dislike each other a great deal. Why not use the ignore button and leave it at that?

7. It sounds as if this feud has been going on for sometime that most boardies have seen,hear or know of it depending on the length of membership. The mod's I am sure also are aware of how these groups feel against each other. It is their board let them make the decisions! (Even if I still do not agree with my strike but that is neither here nor there.)

8. There were rules and terms of use when signing up for the board. If one of them was broken then let the mod's do their thing

9. This seems like a grade school squabble sometimes after reading through all of the posts. Really a meme as a form of revenge? Sounds pretty lame if you really think about it. So much more could have been done equaling revenge against even perceived slights.

10."Why can't we just get along?" Easy society doesn't get along and these boards are a cross section of society from all over the world.

 

 

My thoughts that popped up after reading the last couple pages.

[erazer]

solipsism

[Speedy-D]

jop, that color makes your posts extra hard to read

[Speedy-D]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

tree-hugger

[comix4fun]

jop, that color makes your posts extra hard

 

 

 

I'll be over in the out of context thread for a minute....BRB.

[comix4fun]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

tree-hugger

 

 

No way!

 

I printed out 3,000 copies of this on endangered redwood sourced paper.

[Speedy-D]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

tree-hugger

 

 

No way!

 

I printed out 3,000 copies of this on endangered redwood sourced paper.

so you could snuggle with it in your snuggle nook, tree-snuggler

[MetalPSI]

I thought aluminum prices were spiking due to rumors of an Iron Man 4 appearance?

 

 

No it's because I figured out how to make it transparent

 

[Speedy-D]

Aw, I miss Bones and Scotty.

[jsilverjanet]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

 

Have I told you I'm a fan? This makes too much sense, I hope folks read it, learn it and live it.

[MetalPSI]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

tree-hugger

 

 

Great post, even if a smelly hippy wrote it.

 

 

[comix4fun]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

tree-hugger

 

 

Great post, even if a smelly hippy wrote it.

 

 

 

I let Roy hug me once, I think he got some hippie on me.

I kinda like it.

[skypinkblu]

He's been asked those specific questions John, again and again. He does not answer. I'm sure at this point that if the answer had been "no" we would have heard it.

 

As to anyone being scarred. Well, Sean is pretty easy going, but we do have other members who ARE Gay, and at least one of the ones I know, who has not (thankfully) seen the text would be very upset. I don't see that kind of hate

language as any better than using the "n" word.

 

I tease once and a while when people use "female" terms to rag on each other. COI and I have had long conversations about it some of it in jest, some serious, and most of the time I just let most of the words like "person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed" go right over my head...but honestly the way the word B-tch was used here, offends me. It was not used in a joking ...hey buddy you are a dork manner, it was used in a hateful manner, with a weapon and with blood and brains being spattered.

 

That image and text took time to put together. It was not a quick fix, it was crafted.

 

Am I distressed to the point of being distraught? Of course not...If I were, I wouldn't have ever posted here, but the way that term was used made me cringe.

I'm usually beyond easy going...and I can go on with my life without blinking very much, but when I saw the language used ...I was

 

Puppies, and female dogs ...that's fine. Using it to describe a woman who is nasty? I'm OK with that one, but this was used in a violent sexual manner.

 

There are just a lot of things wrong here, on many levels.

 

I don't know if it's ignorance, or malice or if therapy is needed. I'm not a Dr, but I hope Michael speaks to one so he can get rid of the obvious anger and the probable paranoia.

[MetalPSI]

He's been asked those specific questions John, again and again. He does not answer. I'm sure at this point that if the answer had been "no" we would have heard it.

 

As to anyone being scarred. Well, Sean is pretty easy going, but we do have other members who ARE Gay, and at least one of the ones I know, who has not (thankfully) seen the text would be very upset. I don't see that kind of hate

language as any better than using the "n" word.

 

I tease once and a while when people use "female" terms to rag on each other. COI and I have had long conversations about it some of it in jest, some serious, and most of the time I just let most of the words like "person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed" go right over my head...but honestly the way the word B-tch was used here, offends me. It was not used in a joking ...hey buddy you are a dork manner, it was used in a hateful manner, with a weapon and with blood and brains being spattered.

 

That image and text took time to put together. It was not a quick fix, it was crafted.

 

Am I distressed to the point of being distraught? Of course not...If I were, I wouldn't have ever posted here, but the way that term was used made me cringe.

I'm usually beyond easy going...and I can go on with my life without blinking very much, but when I saw the language used ...I was

 

Puppies, and female dogs ...that's fine. Using it to describe a woman who is nasty? I'm OK with that one, but this was used in a violent sexual manner.

 

There are just a lot of things wrong here, on many levels.

 

I don't know if it's ignorance, or malice or if therapy is needed. I'm not a Dr, but I hope Michael speaks to one so he can get rid of the obvious anger and the probable paranoia.

 

Today's slang is thrown around without a wit of what it means. N word, and all that. I cannot STAND hearing that in public, yet it is pretty commonplace.

 

I continue to refer to individuals who use that language as uninformed, unintelligent weaklings as they are. They are the majority however. To each their own and just remember you are who you associate with.

 

As such can be said for the situation here. Cliques and all that. You are only as good as the people you admire and respect.

 

Glad there are some people here whom I see eye to eye too and respect, otherwise I would have left when I got here...

[vader2001]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

 

Dude, even thou I can smell the hippie all the way over at Nar Shaddaa, well put sir!

[comix4fun]

This was posted right after your post transplant since it was the last post in the chain, but it's not a response to you. It's to the boards in general:

 

I really, truly, believe that 95% of the extent this type of issue comes from is the failure of people to realize that there's a real person on the other end of the screen, to humanize their actions and interactions, to realize that their words are not spoken in a vacuum, that the person they are speaking to or about is a real person (a father, husband, wife, mother, human being) and that they probably want to be treated with the same respect and empathy as they themselves would.

 

I know I am guilty of it too, when I get my teeth into something I think is wrong. I go all out and it's far too easy to let the train run off the tracks.

 

This is a place that people come to to share a common set of hobbies and likes. It is also a place where people come to escape the garbage of the real world, 9-5 jobs, family and medical woes. It was always a place for me to come to share some laughs and a smile in a place where I was among people that shared similar hobbies.

 

I am not saying everyone needs to be friends, or even friendly. We just all need to learn to get out of each others way, respect that space, and treat others the way we'd want to be treated. There are enough scammers and liars invading this place on, what seems like, a daily basis and that's exhausting enough with which to deal. I've striven to make friends here and never sought or desired to make enemies. I think that's true of most people.

 

There's a way to co-exist in this space for all the honest and fair people of the forum, even if everyone's not friendly. I believe that and I need to believe that or I am not sure how long the center will hold on this wonderful forum that's been such a positive part of my life and introduced me to so many great people.

 

Stopping for a moment and granting another person (who is more than the sum total of their avatar, screen name, and post count) the empathy and respect you'd want for yourself will go a long way towards healing this place and bringing it back to a place where people can enjoy spending time.

 

Thanks

 

Dude, even thou I can smell the hippie all the way over at Nar Shaddaa, well put sir!

 

 

This has got to be how Roy feels. First time in my life I've been accused of being the "H" word.

[Park]

I recognize the picture (minus the Fingh portion) from the Vault Grading thread right? I don't get how that has to do with this thread so I am with you Hado

 

It was from the vault thread. The "nice picture" comment is in reference to the fact that it is blurry which has been a running gag on here forever about Sean's picture takng ability. Hence why he laughed at that.

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

He's been asked those specific questions John, again and again. He does not answer. I'm sure at this point that if the answer had been "no" we would have heard it.

 

As to anyone being scarred. Well, Sean is pretty easy going, but we do have other members who ARE Gay, and at least one of the ones I know, who has not (thankfully) seen the text would be very upset. I don't see that kind of hate

language as any better than using the "n" word.

 

I tease once and a while when people use "female" terms to rag on each other. COI and I have had long conversations about it some of it in jest, some serious, and most of the time I just let most of the words like "person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed" go right over my head...but honestly the way the word B-tch was used here, offends me. It was not used in a joking ...hey buddy you are a dork manner, it was used in a hateful manner, with a weapon and with blood and brains being spattered.

 

That image and text took time to put together. It was not a quick fix, it was crafted.

 

Am I distressed to the point of being distraught? Of course not...If I were, I wouldn't have ever posted here, but the way that term was used made me cringe.

I'm usually beyond easy going...and I can go on with my life without blinking very much, but when I saw the language used ...I was

 

Puppies, and female dogs ...that's fine. Using it to describe a woman who is nasty? I'm OK with that one, but this was used in a violent sexual manner.

 

There are just a lot of things wrong here, on many levels.

 

I don't know if it's ignorance, or malice or if therapy is needed. I'm not a Dr, but I hope Michael speaks to one so he can get rid of the obvious anger and the probable paranoia.

 

Thanks Sharon. Excellent post.

 

Maybe I'm insulated. I come from an area of the country where there is zero tolerance for hate speech and threats of violence such as we have seen here. Anyone caught doing so is immediately ostracized and, quite frankly, unemployable from that moment on.

 

When I first saw what Rupp was passing around, it disgusted me. I honestly couldn't believe someone here would do something like that, no matter how badly they disliked someone. I've since come to realize, especially after seeing his responses, that he must have psychological issues that he's dealing with, and I feel sorry for him. He really does need to seek help.

 

What has really saddened me is that over the course of the last couple of days we've seen five or six people here come forward and try to either minimalize what was done, or shift the blame to the victims in some manner. Thankfully, the vast majority of the responses have been from people who have their hearts in the right places and don't want to see this kind of behavior in a place that should be all about the fun and enjoyment of a hobby.