davet75 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hi Everyone, I picked up this MSH 13 from a fellow collector. Beautiful book at a fair price. It has an interesting "defect" that we believed to be a printing / bindery error. The first wrap is not attached to the bottom staple, but it doesn't look like the page was pulled from the staple by a careless reader. If you look carefully, there's a odd bump around the area where the staple should have punched through the first page. I didn't dare to risk pulling the page back any more to get a better view of the defect as that would have caused a cover crease. i plan on keeping this for my personal collection as it displays great, i got it for a very decent price, and the seller and I are both collectors and had a nice conversation about the nature of the defect leading to an agreement on the price, which adds a personal touch to the book. Anyways, the seller and I agreed that should the book be CGC'ed it would likely come back with a qualified green label as they would probably see it not as a bindery/printing error, but a defect like a staple pull. I'm curious about the board's opinion. What is your overall grade and would this receive a green label or blue? Thanks for looking! Dave The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heronext Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) I don’t think CGC would deduct for it at all. Blue label. Edited August 10, 2018 by Heronext davet75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davet75 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Heronext said: I don’t think CGC would deduct for it at all. Blue label. Thanks for your response. What's your opinion on the grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Looks to be in the 7.5 - 8.0 range. I agree, it doesn't look like a staple pull, but I haven't seen this kind of "production flaw" before, so a bit clueless to if it will affect it in anyway. Really nice book though! Edited August 10, 2018 by Gnasher davet75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Nice pics! This flaw is actually much more common than you may think, especially on squarebound Marvels from this time period. It's really not a huge deal; it's the kind of thing CGC used to put on the label sometimes (for example: 1st wrap detached from bottom staple) but they may not even do that anymore. This book should get the Universal blue label (as long as there are no other issues) and from what I can see it looks like at least an 8.0... Edited August 10, 2018 by The Lions Den Added info Howling Mad, Gnasher and davet75 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davet75 Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) Thanks Heronext, Gnasher and Lions Den, I appreciate your opinions! Bumping the thread for more opinions Edited August 11, 2018 by davet75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Clone Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 8.0 here. Overstreet allows the missing staple up to a 9.4. Pretty sure someone posted on the boards about a CGC 9.8 without a staple so I wouldn't worry about it. davet75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...