PGM Green Lantern 40 0

[gadzukes]

My photos make the color look a little washed out, but it's not that way at all.... super deep colors.

To me the front cover looks like a 7.5, gorgeous spine.

However.......

Back cover has a light subscription crease.  

And...... the cf is present, in great shape, but alas... it's detached (dang DC using crappy paper in this period)

Do you think I could still get a 6.0 on this just from the merits of the nice front cover or are the other flaws to big to get that grade.

[William-James88]

Subscription crease beings it to a 4.0 already, not sure how much lower you get with the added detached CF.

I know sold raw, the grade would be 2.5 max, since CF detachment is the biggest difference between Overstreet grading standards and CGC. 

The grade from CGC could be anywhere between 2.5 and 3.5.

[gadzukes]

10 hours ago, William-James88 said:

Subscription crease beings it to a 4.0 already, not sure how much lower you get with the added detached CF.

I know sold raw, the grade would be 2.5 max, since CF detachment is the biggest difference between Overstreet grading standards and CGC. 

The grade from CGC could be anywhere between 2.5 and 3.5.

If the grade went as low as 2.5 it would truly be a travesty, when the comic presents as nicely as this.  If the CF was firmly attached is 4.0 truly the highest it can go?

[KCOComics]

10 hours ago, William-James88 said:

Subscription crease beings it to a 4.0 already, not sure how much lower you get with the added detached CF.

I know sold raw, the grade would be 2.5 max, since CF detachment is the biggest difference between Overstreet grading standards and CGC. 

The grade from CGC could be anywhere between 2.5 and 3.5.

does the subscription crease take it down that low? 

Yikes!  I wouldn't have thought that low looking at the book. 

[William-James88]

2 minutes ago, gadzukes said:

If the grade went as low as 2.5 it would truly be a travesty, when the comic presents as nicely as this.  If the CF was firmly attached is 4.0 truly the highest it can go?

Yes. There was a discussion recently about an otherwise amazing looking book that had 1/3 of a subscription type crease on the back and it was lowered to a 7.0. So something 3 times as big getting a 4.0 fits.

Plus that's the highest grade according to overstreet standards and those were the standards CGC based their grading on originally.

Low grade comics can still look good, its just that some defects simply can't get higher grades. Like check these two books I got, the 1.5 presents waaaay better, but the defect is simply unforgivable.

 

 

[William-James88]

14 minutes ago, KCOComics said:

does the subscription crease take it down that low? 

Yes, 100%

[gadzukes]

1 hour ago, William-James88 said:

Yes, 100%

 

So I guess these two beauties are screwed

[vheflin]

5.0 crow

[William-James88]

1 hour ago, gadzukes said:

So I guess these two beauties are screwed

Maybe not, I dont see much of a colour break, if there is no indication of a length wide crease after pressed you could be ok.

[gadzukes]

1 hour ago, William-James88 said:

Maybe not, I dont see much of a colour break, if there is no indication of a length wide crease after pressed you could be ok.

It's cuz the sub crease is on the back cover, like the GL 40

[William-James88]

24 minutes ago, gadzukes said:

It's cuz the sub crease is on the back cover, like the GL 40

If it breaks colour like the GL then yes.

[evilskip]

17 hours ago, William-James88 said:

Subscription crease beings it to a 4.0 already, not sure how much lower you get with the added detached CF.

I know sold raw, the grade would be 2.5 max, since CF detachment is the biggest difference between Overstreet grading standards and CGC. 

The grade from CGC could be anywhere between 2.5 and 3.5.

MCS max grade with a sub crease is 4.0, usually 3.0 to 3.5. Detached cf drops it down a full grade, so you'd be lucky to get it out of the good good plus range. The comic does look nice though.

[William-James88]

34 minutes ago, evilskip said:

MCS max grade with a sub crease is 4.0, usually 3.0 to 3.5. Detached cf drops it down a full grade, so you'd be lucky to get it out of the good good plus range. The comic does look nice though.

Yup, MCS uses the main accepted grading standards for raw books (overstreet). It's the same standards i used when I managed a comic shop. And it's the same one HA uses as well. Here's a listing of comics I had purchased. Gorgeous issues but with subscription crease, so VG. Most beautiful VGs I ever saw or owned but VGs none the less.

https://comics.ha.com/itm/silver-age-1956-1969-/justice-league-of-america-10-15-group-dc-1962-condition-average-vg-total-6-comic-books-/a/121209-11351.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

[Deadpoolica]

5.5

[Randall Ries]

But what you DO have are some books that present very nicely. If it were me, I wouldn't slab but put them in a top loader or mylar and enjoy them. That GL #40 is on my purchase list. First app Crisis On Infinite Earths!

 

[theCapraAegagrus]

3.0 IMO.