ghn999 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 What do you guys think this faded hulk 181 graded at? Galen130 and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 2.5-3.0 as is I would say. 3.5-4.0 after a pressing since I see pressable defects and it doesn’t present that bad minus the very bad color fade. Edited September 22, 2020 by LDarkseid1 ghn999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I don't think cgc deducts points for fading, so it could grade out as a 4.0, but you'll have trouble selling it for 4.0 $$ Was it in a picture frame? Or one to many trips to the tanning bed? ghn999, Keys_Collector and MatterEaterLad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghn999 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 I bought it as is for a good price. Just wanted another hulk 181 in my collections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3.5 max. ghn999 and MatterEaterLad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sorry, but my OCD kicked in. You asked the board what we thought it was graded at. Is it already graded or are you looking for feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghn999 Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Galen130 said: Sorry, but my OCD kicked in. You asked the board what we thought it was graded at. Is it already graded or are you looking for feedback? I haven't gotten it graded yet but I will send it in. I've never sent in a faded comic book before. So just asking for grade. Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ghn999 said: I haven't gotten it graded yet but I will send it in. I've never sent in a faded comic book before. So just asking for grade. Gotcha. A clean/press might help here, especially the back cover. 3.0/3.5...IMO. Good luck. ghn999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, KCOComics said: I don't think cgc deducts points for fading, so it could grade out as a 4.0, but you'll have trouble selling it for 4.0 $$ Was it in a picture frame? Or one to many trips to the tanning bed? Are you saying you don’t think CGC deducts for that massively faded cover? If that’s what you’re implying couldn’t be farther from the truth and that’s a large deduction. The highest book I’ve seen with fade like that is maybe a 4.0-4.5. Unless of course it came off the production line like that, but then we’re talking a production error, which is the exception to the rule. But sun fade is a huge deduction. Edited September 22, 2020 by LDarkseid1 ghn999, James J Johnson and silversurfer275 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3.5 IMO. 1950's war comics and ghn999 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustomizer Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I'd buy it just for the pleasure of cutting out that Marvel Value stamp, and not feeling guilty about it. Edited September 22, 2020 by kustomizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Press and clean for sure...don't be surprised if you get a 5.0. Here is a comparible in the sense of fading. I think Fine or better would be very hard to get with that much fading http://hulkcgcmarvel.com/2019/02/the-incredible-hulk-181-cgc-graded-5-0-owithw-pages-complete-1st-wolverine-xmen/ As is, I will safely say 4.5 all day long. ghn999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, LDarkseid1 said: Are you saying you don’t think CGC deducts for that massively faded cover? If that’s what you’re implying couldn’t be farther from the truth and that’s a large deduction. The highest book I’ve seen with fade like that is maybe a 4.0-4.5. Unless of course it came off the production line like that, but then we’re talking a production error, which is the exception to the rule. But sun fade is a huge deduction. You are likely correct. And even if your wrong, you should be correct. Fading like that should hurt the grade big time. I read at one time that below 4.5 fading won't impact the grade. It was likely a comment on these boards and not a vetted source. That said, I bought a pretty faded Hulk 1 earlier this year. It came back as a 4.0 (R) and I'm sure it would have been a 4.0 even if the color jumped off the page. Here is my hulk for reference. Juventus FC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, KCOComics said: You are likely correct. And even if your wrong, you should be correct. Fading like that should hurt the grade big time. I read at one time that below 4.5 fading won't impact the grade. It was likely a comment on these boards and not a vetted source. That said, I bought a pretty faded Hulk 1 earlier this year. It came back as a 4.0 (R) and I'm sure it would have been a 4.0 even if the color jumped off the page. Here is my hulk for reference. Ehhh, that’s not horrible and I’d say it could have been a 5.0 if not for the slight fading. The chipping to the right won’t hurt the grade as much and it presents pretty well otherwise. I’d say the Hulk 181 out fades you quite significantly haha. I sent in an X-Men 2 to get graded once that presented like a 6.5 but had significant fading and it came back a 4.0. So that’s my personal experience with it. Edited September 22, 2020 by LDarkseid1 KCOComics and ghn999 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustomizer Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, KCOComics said: You are likely correct. And even if your wrong, you should be correct. Fading like that should hurt the grade big time. I read at one time that below 4.5 fading won't impact the grade. It was likely a comment on these boards and not a vetted source. That said, I bought a pretty faded Hulk 1 earlier this year. It came back as a 4.0 (R) and I'm sure it would have been a 4.0 even if the color jumped off the page. Here is my hulk for reference. That's only about a 10% fade on that Hulk #1, and as he was gray anyway, no colour loss on the main character. KCOComics and LDarkseid1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, LDarkseid1 said: Ehhh, that’s not horrible and I’d say it could have been a 5.0 if not for the slight fading. The chipping to the right won’t hurt the grade as much and it presents pretty well otherwise. I’d say the Hulk 181 out fades you quite significantly haha. I sent in an X-Men 2 to get graded once that presented like a 6.5 but had significant fading and it came back a 4.0. So that’s my personal experience with it. Agreed! The 181 out faded me big time! I also agree, it should hurt the grade significantly! ghn999 and LDarkseid1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, kustomizer said: That's only about a 10% fade on that Hulk #1, and as he was gray anyway, no colour loss on the main character. I was thinking more a 13.27% fade 🤔, but 10 works 😁. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, LDarkseid1 said: I was thinking more a 13.27% fade 🤔, but 10 works 😁. Its just faded enough where you can put the fading out of mind, until you see a real bright copy and I say to myself "wow, that's what it's supposed to look like" LDarkseid1 and ghn999 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kustomizer Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, LDarkseid1 said: I was thinking more a 13.27% fade 🤔, but 10 works 😁. Maybe we do need an official Fade-Grade. LDarkseid1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, KCOComics said: Its just faded enough where you can put the fading out of mind, until you see a real bright copy and I say to myself "wow, that's what it's supposed to look like" Not enough sunsceen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...