ftlepore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Hey guys! Just picked up this copy of Hulk 181. According to CGC it was graded way back in 2002. I know there's a belief that grading was stricter back then, so I was going to get the book pressed, dry cleaned, and resubmitted. I think even without doing so it presents better than a 5.5. Just curious what you guys think. Does it look better than a 5.5? If so, where do you see this landing? I think the book presents beautifully. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversurfer275 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 With press and clean maybe 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Another OLD Label bites the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 This would be ridiculous. The only real issue I'm concerned with is the stain on the top back cover, but I don't know how irreparable that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 i would pay for the grader notes and see what it was deducted for. The back cover staining appears to be the big issue. I don't think that will comes off with standard press and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Funnybooks Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 worth a press, clean and resubmit Deadpoolica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Funnybooks said: worth a press, clean and resubmit agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) I also don't see the crease on the front cover, so I assume it doesn't break color? Edited September 28, 2020 by ftlepore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Deadpoolica said: agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 If this is the same copy that just sold on eBay, based on recent GPA sales, you would need to get a 7.0 in order to make some money on it. I agree it will bump up if cleaned and pressed properly, but that amount of dirt on the back cover will have to be handled very carefully to avoid ink loss in the black/colored areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 It should be the 5.5 that sold on eBay, and that's not entirely true. The last 5.5s before this one sold for $2811, and two best offers were accepted for below $2700. I don't think that's too far off of the market price for a 5.5, and this one had the press/clean potential for me. I also won the recent 7.0 that sold for $3100, but the seller cancelled the order three minutes after the auction ended (which sucked, and I assume was because he didn't get the price he wanted; great way to avoid the cost of putting a reserve on the auction). Meanwhile, two recent 6.5s have gone for $3500 and $3395, so the prices are kind of all over. Either way, I didn't get it to flip it. I was looking for a copy of 181, and this felt like a good opportunity to see if it could be improved, and I felt like the price for a 5.5 was in line with previous copies in the past couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ftlepore said: It should be the 5.5 that sold on eBay, and that's not entirely true. The last 5.5s before this one sold for $2811, and two best offers were accepted for below $2700. I don't think that's too far off of the market price for a 5.5, and this one had the press/clean potential for me. I also won the recent 7.0 that sold for $3100, but the seller cancelled the order three minutes after the auction ended (which sucked, and I assume was because he didn't get the price he wanted; great way to avoid the cost of putting a reserve on the auction). Meanwhile, two recent 6.5s have gone for $3500 and $3395, so the prices are kind of all over. Either way, I didn't get it to flip it. I was looking for a copy of 181, and this felt like a good opportunity to see if it could be improved, and I felt like the price for a 5.5 was in line with previous copies in the past couple months. If you are not looking to flip you got what you wanted, a nice mid-grade copy. Below is the GPA data based on last sale for 5.5, 6.0, 6.5 and 7.0. I based my comment on GPA sales and not eBay sales. UNI 7.0 $279540 $288551 $275743 $306611 $3500 UNI 6.5 $222854 $259851 $258043 $280611 $2921 UNI 6.0 $224028 $243535 $230030 $27553 $2900 UNI 5.5 $204637 $220739 $211833 $25838 $2802 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 For sure, but a) I'm pretty sure I could sell a 6.5 for close to what they've been going for on eBay recently, and b) if you know where I could find a 7.0 for $2800, definitely let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ftlepore said: For sure, but a) I'm pretty sure I could sell a 6.5 for close to what they've been going for on eBay recently, and b) if you know where I could find a 7.0 for $2800, definitely let me know. for the 7.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Another 7.0 just sold Buy-It-Now for $3344 on eBay, so I think the eBay sales are going for a bit more than wherever else GPA is pulling from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedcake Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Good luck. The stains on the back cover will make it tough, but its a really nice looking 5.5 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicdey Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Should improve but the stains will limit upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I would spend the extra what....$30-40? Easy move. At the very least it will present better. And for that minor amount I would want to get the top value for my 5.5 so I would invest to do so. As for what I think it gets, I think 6.5 is tops because of the stain but that is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftlepore Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Got the book today and took a bunch more pics. The stain is actually much less noticeable in person and seems to show up more in pics. Most of the wear seems to be on the spine. The rest of the cover is pretty clean. The back looks lightly speckled with...dirt? I'm not sure. I was hoping that might come out with dry cleaning. I still have 30 days to return the book through eBay, since the seller accepts returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...