Nic8612 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Looking at buying this book but it's hard to tell how to grade it. The bottom staple is present but popped from the cover and there's water damage on the back Any thoughts on a grade? Edited November 22, 2020 by Nic8612 FoggyNelson and Galen130 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Wow, nice! Probably 4.0 or thereabouts with so much BC staining and staple pop, but it certainly presents way better. Nic8612 and FoggyNelson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Point Five said: Wow, nice! Probably 4.0 or thereabouts with so much BC staining and staple pop, but it certainly presents way better. Thanks! Do you think I should be worried about it getting a green label due to the staple? I know they usually only do that for higher grade books, but this one is kinda teetering on that ledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoggyNelson Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 If the staple has been replaced wouldn’t. It be worth removing the staple to get a blue label cgc slab? 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Nic8612 said: Thanks! Do you think I should be worried about it getting a green label due to the staple? I know they usually only do that for higher grade books, but this one is kinda teetering on that ledge I mean, just throwing out guesses here, but with the back cover staining there's not just one flaw to 'overlook' so I wouldn't think it gets qualified. I'd think 4.0, maybe 4.5 blue. Hope you can get the book! Regardless of technical grade it looks super nice. 1950's war comics and Nic8612 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Point Five said: I mean, just throwing out guesses here, but with the back cover staining there's not just one flaw to 'overlook' so I wouldn't think it gets qualified. I'd think 4.0, maybe 4.5 blue. Hope you can get the book! Regardless of technical grade it looks super nice. I definitely don't plan on passing it up, just need to figure out a fair price. Thanks for the advice! Point Five and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nic8612 said: I definitely don't plan on passing it up, just need to figure out a fair price. Thanks for the advice! The last recorded CGC 6.0 sold about a year ago for approx. $1250. So figure $400 to $500 FMV for a 4.0? This is a rare book. The whole title in fact seems to be hard to find, any of the numbers, they don't show up often. So my guess is that based on that 2019 CGC 6.0 sale, if you can score this for $600 or less, you're in right and if this was a must have, $750 would be my limit. Edited November 22, 2020 by James J Johnson 1950's war comics and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 yep that is one of the top PCH books of them all Nic8612 and James J Johnson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: The last recorded CGC 6.0 sold about a year ago for approx. $1250. So figure $400 to $500 FMV for a 4.0? This is a rare book. The whole title in fact seems to be hard to find, any of the numbers, they don't show up often. So my guess is that based on that 2019 CGC 6.0 sale, if you can score this for $600 or less, you're in right and if this was a must have, $750 would be my limit. GoCollect shows a 4.0 that sold on eBay back in June for $1500~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, Nic8612 said: GoCollect shows a 4.0 that sold on eBay back in June for $1500~ Is this from a private seller? His quoting you a price? Or is it selling on a public platform, your having to outbid the world to take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: Is this from a private seller? His quoting you a price? Or is it selling on a public platform, your having to outbid the world to take it? Private seller and he hasn't quoted a price, but he's using that sale in June as a reference point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nic8612 said: Private seller and he hasn't quoted a price, but he's using that sale in June as a reference point So he's looking for that, or more? You know, 1 sale does not a trend make. 1 sale can possibly be an outlier, for many reasons. Some of which include shill bidding, a return, non-payment, a whole host of reasons aside from the buyer being the "first one through the wall", bidding in uncharted waters due to low or absent sales data. The results are also at the mercy of having two bidders with equal desire, and both being stubborn. One of them doesn't show up the next time that 4.0 auctions and the results may be $400. Offer him $900, see what he says. Heritage just auctioned a GA Sub 1 CGC 5.0 for $12,000 that was recorded on GP as $20,000 the last time it sold! Edited November 22, 2020 by James J Johnson 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Nic8612 said: GoCollect shows a 4.0 that sold on eBay back in June for $1500~ Approaching this logically, the most important question is, "What grade is the seller calling this?". That really needs to be addressed first. The issue of agreement of grade. Any dialog with the seller on that all important and primary factor? 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Did you search the boards too, Nick? A copy of that book transacted on here a year or so ago, so at least it gives you another reference point on a tough book. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Nic8612 said: GoCollect shows a 4.0 that sold on eBay back in June for $1500~ I have trouble trusting GoCollect as I've seen dubious data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Funnybooks said: I have trouble trusting GoCollect as I've seen dubious data Really? First I've heard of that. I thought everyone uses an amalgamation of Go and GPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Readcomix said: Did you search the boards too, Nick? A copy of that book transacted on here a year or so ago, so at least it gives you another reference point on a tough book. Good luck! I didn't! I'll try to find that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 12 hours ago, James J Johnson said: Approaching this logically, the most important question is, "What grade is the seller calling this?". That really needs to be addressed first. The issue of agreement of grade. Any dialog with the seller on that all important and primary factor? The seller is calling it a 4.0 With the popped staple and water stains in the back. Even though the rest of the book looks to be in good shape, I just don't see it going higher than a 3.0 Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic8612 Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Readcomix said: Did you search the boards too, Nick? A copy of that book transacted on here a year or so ago, so at least it gives you another reference point on a tough book. Good luck! Any chance you have a link to that? I can't seem to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nic8612 said: Any chance you have a link to that? I can't seem to find it I'll try a search. I remember somebody did an auction, and eventually someone just grabbed it at the BIN anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
