Yo Lighthouse, How Many 35-Centers Ya Got?

[Darthdiesel]

Somebody stop me! Or at least give me one reason why I shouldn't list my 35-centers?

 

Because the full set is now more attainable with folks selling. I just got an email, along with oher 35 cent collectors that they will list 2 Ms. Marvel variants during the X-Men 2 release to coincide with listing first app of Mystique.

 

I just sent my 35's in for grading - about 18 of them to see where they stand. I just compiled a handy top census grades for the 30 centers, will finish up with the 35 cents ones. There were plenty of 30 cent variant issues that did not have one graded copy up yet, even some errors as pointed out by donut and silverandbronze in the marketplace thread.

 

JC - now's a good time to get rid of your 35 cent dupes and use the $$$ to find more!

[blowout]

I just compiled a handy top census grades for the 30 centers, will finish up with the 35 cents ones.

 

Any chance of posting the list Darth?

It sure would be interesting to see it. IF you are prepared to share your good work that is.

[Darthdiesel]

I'm not really concerned about the money, but the fact that I could blow off some copies, and then translate that into some comics that I really appreciate.

 

Great idea - have you contributed full disclosure of your stash to Paul's website yet?

 

I mean, a GOOD 35-center almost hits $100, some copies with names scrawled on them and coupons filled in, hit the same levels.

 

I remember when the 35 centers that went for all 96.01 across the board on ebay in the past two weeks were ones I lost on in the Jan 2003 Heritage Auctions...and they sold for much less there.

 

WTF would happen if I listed some prime material right now?

 

Knowing your grading and you, I'd guess unslabbed 35 cent X-men may get up to $150 even in GOOD; NM raw - $300; slabbed NM...don't want to think about it

 

If you do list, make sure you "spam" the 35 cent big boys and let them all fight it out...or slab it and sell through Heritage (or have them press and slab it!)

[Darthdiesel]

There seem to be around half a dozen rabid collectors of 30 & 35 cent variants bidding on ebay autions at the moment. Definately a good time to sell.

 

Half dozen and growing - at least for the 30 centers. I'm seeing more and more new names turn up that are not on my list of "regulars" I'm also getting PM's wondering if I'm bidding heavy or not. I point them to my needs list in the Marketplace Forum and let em figure it out if they want it bad enough. I've let a few slip by (Jungle Action and Sully's CGC 9.6 DD 132 var - still hurts that my $500 bid did not snipe that )

 

Even the easier variants have been going for $35-50 in VF and above. Don't see too many high grade auctions, but those I have seen are clearing $100 on 30 centers.

 

Like I said earliewr, I was checking the census on high grade copies and there is still that mentality present on having the highest graded copy, now it is being applied on the already scarce 30 centers...

 

30 Cent Variants Highest Grade on Census

Adventures on the Planet of the Apes 5 none

Adventures on the Planet of the Apes 6 9.4

Adventures on the Planet of the Apes 7 none

Amazing Adventures 36 9.2

Amazing Adventures 37 9.6

Amazing Spiderman 155 9.4

Amazing Spiderman 156 9.4

Amazing Spiderman 157 9.4

Amazing Spiderman 158 9.4

Amazing Spiderman 159 9.6

Astonishing Tales 35 9.4

Astonishing Tales 36 none

Avengers 146 none

Avengers 147 none

Avengers 148 9.4

Avengers 149 9.4

Avengers 150 9.2

Black Goliath 2 9.4

Black Goliath 3 9.4

Black Goliath 4 9.4

Captain America 196 9.6

Captain America 197 9.6

Captain America 198 9.6

Captain America 199 9.6

Captain America 200 9.4

Captain Marvel 44 8.0

Captain Marvel 45 9.0

Chamber of Chills 22 none

Chamber of Chills 23 9.0

Champions 5 9.6

Champions 6 9.2

Champions 7 9.0

Conan 61 8.5

Conan 62 9.6

Conan 63 6.5

Conan 64 6.5

Conan 65 6.0

Daredevil 132 9.6

Daredevil 133 9.6

Daredevil 134 9.0

Daredevil 135 9.2

Daredevil 136 9.0

Defenders 34 9.4

Defenders 35 8.0

Defenders 36 8.0

Defenders 37 9.0

Defenders 38 9.2

Doctor Strange 13 9.6

Doctor Strange 14 9.0

Doctor Strange 15 9.0

Doctor Strange 16 9.4

Doctor Strange 17 9.4

Eternals 1 9.0

Eternals 2 none

Fantastic Four 169 9.2

Fantastic Four 170 7.5

Fantastic Four 171 9.4

Fantastic Four 172 8.5

Fantastic Four 173 9.4

Ghost Rider 17 9.4

Ghost Rider 18 9.6

Ghost Rider 19 9.4

Howard the Duck 3 9.6

Howard the Duck 4 9.0

Incredible Hulk 198 9.2

Incredible Hulk 199 9.2

Incredible Hulk 200 9.4

Incredible Hulk 201 9.4

Incredible Hulk 202 9.4

Inhumans 4 9.4

Inhumans 6 9.0

Invaders 6 9.4

Invaders 7 9.4

Ironfist 4 9.6

Ironfist 5 8.5

Ironfist 6 9.0

Ironman 85 8.0

Ironman 86 9.4

Ironman 87 9.4

Ironman 88 9.4

Ironman 89 9.4

Jungle Action 21 none

Jungle Action 22 9.4

Kazar 15 8.5

Kazar 17 9.2

Kid Colt Outlaw 205 none

Kid Colt Outlaw 206 8.5

Kid Colt Outlaw 207 6.5

Kid Colt Outlaw 208 7.0

Kid Colt Outlaw 209 8.0

Kull 16 none

Marvel Adventures 3 8.5

Marvel Adventures 4 none

Marvel Adventures 5 none

Marvel Chillers 4 none

Marvel Chillers 5 none

Marvel Chillers 6 9.4

Marvel Double Feature 15 9.2

Marvel Double Feature 16 none

Marvel Double Feature 17 none

Marvel Feature 4 9.4

Marvel Feature 5 none

Marvel Premiere 29 9.0

Marvel Premiere 30 9.2

Marvel Premiere 31 9.2

Marvel Presents 4 8.0

Marvel Presents 5 9.0

Marvel Presents 6 9.4

Marvel's Greatest Comics 63 none

Marvel's Greatest Comics 64 none

Marvel Spotlight 27 9.2

Marvel Spotlight 28 9.2

Marvel Spotlight 29 9.6

Marvel Superheroes 57 none

Marvel Superheroes 58 none

Marvel Tales 66 none

Marvel Tales 67 7.0

Marvel Tales 68 8.0

Marvel Tales 69 9.0

Marvel Tales 70 9.2

Marvel Team-Up 44 9.2

Marvel Team-Up 45 9.4

Marvel Team-Up 46 9.4

Marvel Team-Up 47 9.0

Marvel Team-Up 48 9.4

Marvel Triple Action 29 none

Marvel Triple Action 30 none

Marvel Two-In-One 15 none

Marvel Two-In-One 16 9.4

Marvel Two-In-One 17 9.0

Marvel Two-In-One 18 none

Master of Kung-Fu 39 none

Master of Kung-Fu 40 9.2

Master of Kung-Fu 41 none

Master of Kung-Fu 42 none

Master of Kung-Fu 43 9.6

Mighty Marvel Western 45 9.0

Omega 2 9.4

Omega 3 8.0

Powerman 30 9.6

Powerman 31 9.2

Powerman 32 9.2

Powerman 33 9.4

Powerman 34 9.4

Rawhide Kid 133 none

Rawhide Kid 134 none

Ringo Kid 27 none

Ringo Kid 28 none

Sergeant Fury 133 none

Sergeant Fury 134 none

Skull 5 9.4

Skull 6 9.6

Son of Satan 3 none

Son of Satan 4 none

Son of Satan 5 9.2

Strange Tales 185 none

Strange Tales 186 none

Super-villian Team-Up 5 9.4

Super-villian Team-Up 6 7.5

Super-villian Team-Up 7 9.6

Thor 246 9.4

Thor 247 9.0

Thor 248 9.0

Thor 249 9.6

Thor 250 9.2

Tomb of Darkness 20 none

Tomb of Darkness 21 9.4

Tomb of Dracula 43 9.2

Tomb of Dracula 44 9.0

Tomb of Dracula 45 9.2

Tomb of Dracula 46 9.6

Tomb of Dracula 47 9.4

Two-Gun Kid 129 none

Two-Gun Kid 130 4.0

Two-Gun Kid 131 none

Warlock 12 9.6

Warlock 13 9.6

Warlock 14 none

Weird Wonder Tales 15 7.0

Weird Wonder Tales 16 none

Weird Wonder Tales 17 9.4

Werewolf by Night 38 9.6

Werewolf by Night 39 none

X-men 98 9.0

X-men 99 9.4

X-men 100 9.0

 

[Darthdiesel]

I wonder what the rarest 35-center is?

 

Westerns, Fury then the Cartoons?

[Darthdiesel]

I apologize for the poor formatting - copy/pasted from my Excel - I can send it to you if you PM your email. I haven't finished the 35 center list yet. I'm finding some down time inbetween doing my taxes - still at it!

[blowout]

Darth, just a quick one on your high census list.

I'm pretty sure there was an IF 5 or 6 (can't remember which) in cgc 9.6 up on ebay this week. You might want to update the list, you were probably bidding on it weren't you?

I assume now that you are getting close to the full set that you are going for the highest grade set?

[Darthdiesel]

Blowout, you mean this IF?

 

I'll keep the update in mind. I know someone who just sent about a hundred?? of these in to CGC....I'll wait until his are posted up and then update...

 

Am I going for the highest graded set...I'd love to give it a shot. But that would take convincing some of the big boys to "entomb" their 30 cent copies forever...fortunately one can find reading copies (the 25 cent versions) in bargain bins!

[murph0]

Good luck on those. I got screwed when I sent mine in. It's easily comparable to any other bronze 9.4 out there, yet somehow mine was a 9.0

 

Brian

[blowout]

know someone who just sent about a hundred?? of these in to CGC

 

Are you talking 100 copies of the same issue? Or 100 different variant books?

[Darthdiesel]

100 different variant books...I was thinking of doing the same

 

[blowout]

Will look out for an ebay frenzy soon then.

[lighthouse]

I mean, a GOOD 35-center almost hits $100, some copies with names scrawled on them and coupons filled in, hit the same levels.

WTF would happen if I listed some prime material right now?

 

To be honest, unless they were slabbed I don't think it would matter...

 

Right now I will pay around 75% as much for a copy in Good as I will for one in 9.0. And based on what the competing bidders are doing, I think there is a better return on investment from low-grade copies than marginal high grade ones.

 

It really boils down to this, I would rather have three different 35c variants all with missing centerfolds than one 35c in nice shape...

 

So by all means, list your extras... I'll be there to bid on them...

[comicwiz]

It was a french fellow; all he had collected were variants. His dad was a government official, and they moved around a fair bit when he was growing up. The collection consisted of mainly the 35-cent variants. I just recently pulled them out because Darth asked me to come-up with a value for the Star Wars 1. From what I can recollect, all the Star Wars (1-4) variants, and from what I hear, that's an accomplishment on its own (its also worth noting this guy was a big sci-fi fan). The X-Men (105-107, which at the time of my purchase, I really needed for my run, so it was a bonus. The logan runs you mentioned (I think the entire run, but only 6 & 7 were the variants). And lots of the Marvel titles (MTU, Tales, Premiere, Triple-Action, Super Action, MTO), and a lot of other stuff. Its funny, but I didn't recall a Godzilla 1 either, but when I dug up the Star Wars for Darth, I found one of those as well. There were also some 30-cent variants in the run; similar collecting habits with the 35-cent variants. The nicest by far are the 35-cent variants (condition wise). The X-Men 98-100 are also nice, but the Sgt Fury 133 & 134 are in the hyper high-grades.

[comicwiz]

I wonder; I had the regular 30-cent IF 14's graded and they came back 9.0 and 9.4(and that's how I graded them before sending them in). These two copies I have are nicer; would you say that they grade the variant harder than the regular copy?

[joe_collector]

>>I don't think I missed the Logan's Run issues cuz of rarity, although they are certainly not among the most common.

 

I know, but my only point was that I'd never seen one before (as with some Westerns and Sgt. Fury's), and if any were listed on EBay, it would likely catch someone's attention and they'd add it to the list. I'm not saying it's the rarest, but there can't be too many floatng around, especially for the poor-selling last issues of a series that was cancelled with the 35-cent versions.

 

>>As for the discrepancy betweent the prices realized for high versus low grade 35 centers, it makes some sense to me. Essentially, there are collectors who are happy to have ANY copy

 

Believe me I understand fully, and that's why when I find a copy and the price is right, I nab it, regardless of condition. Some of these comics you could literally never see again, so a VG is better than nothing.

[joe_collector]

>>Great idea - have you contributed full disclosure of your stash to Paul's website yet?

 

I have sent in the ones I have in my "variant box", but I know I'vew got some others. For example, we were having a party this weekend and the wife made me take a few stacks of books up to my office. When I was boxing them, lo and behold another stash of 35-centers.

 

>>Knowing your grading and you, I'd guess....

 

I'm wondering if this is a compliment or a slam.

[joe_collector]

Let me know what that Marvel's Greatest Comics variant grades. I still miss that book and its nice orange cover.....

 

Then again, I do have some nicer condition 30-centers for sure, but that one always struck me a real rarity, especially a nice looking copy.

[underthebigw]

Hey JC, if you get a chance, send me scans of the ones you just found. At your own leisure, of course. We're getting surprisingly close to (over half, I believe) finishing the set. Not that I think we'll ever do so--I forgot about those damnable cartoon books. I think we all saw the Flintstones 1 a few months ago (damn that was a nice book) and I know the Scooby Doo 1 was found, but I have never seen it or any other cartoon books for that matter, as 35 variants.

[joe_collector]

But what other 35-cent cartoon books are there? I thought it was just Scoopy and the 'Stones.