Thinking to make my first submittal and have a question about screening moderns... 1 1

[Mingaling]

I have 100ish modern variants most of which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in.  Should I be sending those in for a pre-screen as I am worried about a finger print knocking down the grade?  Also, if a pre-screen finds a defect that could be removed with a clean and/or press will I have the option to have that service performed to fix the problem or will it simply be sent back?  OOOF so many damn comics where to start lol.  Cheers

[William-James88]

3 hours ago, Mingaling said:

I have 100ish modern variants most of which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in.  Should I be sending those in for a pre-screen as I am worried about a finger print knocking down the grade?  Also, if a pre-screen finds a defect that could be removed with a clean and/or press will I have the option to have that service performed to fix the problem or will it simply be sent back?  OOOF so many damn comics where to start lol.  Cheers

Sadly, it will be sent back.

The best thing to do to ensure your best rate if success is to have all your books pressed independently of CGC before submission. There are several pressing services out there . Those pressing your books can then submit them to CGC with a prescreen option. 

This is literally what I did. 

[Mingaling]

Well it would be cleaning and not pressing as these books, for the most part, would not need a pressing. Why would CGC not give the option of fixing the problems as they already have the books?  Seems crazy to have wait a month or longer just to have them send books back for having a finger print stopping the books from getting an 9.8 that could easily be cleaned.  They charge you for the service and everyone is happy.  Sigh

[Mingaling]

Yes and my point was if they pre-screen and find an easily fixable issue it seems crazy you can't opt to have the cleaning/pressing option extended to you at that stage in the process. Using my untrained eye to find every single fixable flaw on a book seems a bit daunting. Of course if I know of an issue I will clean it myself. 

Edited June 5, 2021 by Mingaling

[Jeffro.]

16 hours ago, Mingaling said:

I have 100ish modern variants most of which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in.

Have you determined whether it's even worth it to slab every one of those? 

[Galen130]

1 hour ago, Jeffro. said:

Have you determined whether it's even worth it to slab every one of those? 

 

[revat]

2 hours ago, Jeffro. said:

Have you determined whether it's even worth it to slab every one of those? 

The economy needs the money more than he does.  

 

10 hours ago, Mingaling said:

Well it would be cleaning and not pressing as these books, for the most part, would not need a pressing. Why would CGC not give the option of fixing the problems as they already have the books?  Seems crazy to have wait a month or longer just to have them send books back for having a finger print stopping the books from getting an 9.8 that could easily be cleaned.  They charge you for the service and everyone is happy.  Sigh

Actually you can send them to CCS, the pressing arm (cousin?) of Cgc.  You can have them pre-screen for pressable defects, then they press the ones they think need pressing, and eventually they all get submitted for grading.

at that point, you can pre-screen the grading for whatever grade you’re looking for, and they will only grade the books that meet those grades.

 

the Cgc and ccs are supposed to at least have the perception of independence from each other, that’s why they don’t have the option you’re talking about.  Otherwise the graders could be recommending all of them for extra grading, or favoring those known to be pressed by ccs

if it’s you’re first time submitting and the forms aren’t clear (which they aren’t), you should call/email/contact Cgc customer service to walk through the process and answer your questions, and you can give them feedback and suggestions that you think will improve their business.  They’re not a monolith and are not opposed to change when warranted.

good luck

[Mingaling]

On 6/5/2021 at 8:35 AM, Jeffro. said:

Have you determined whether it's even worth it to slab every one of those? 

I know quite a bit about comic value, keys, short print in demand comics and ratio variants.  So yes out of my 6k comics the 4 or 5 short boxes of silver-modern would all bring in an elevated premium in the 9.8 and often 9.6 range.  

[shadroch]

On 6/4/2021 at 4:30 PM, Mingaling said:

I have 100ish modern variants most of which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in.  

When a newcomer posts something like this, it doesn't fill me with confidence that they understand the market. Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't, but my advice would be to be very careful before sending in 100 books.

Saying you have boxes of silver age that will grade 9.6-9.8 doesn't inspire confidence, either. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by shadroch

[Mingaling]

2 hours ago, shadroch said:

When a newcomer posts something like this, it doesn't fill me with confidence that they understand the market. Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't, but my advice would be to be very careful before sending in 100 books.

Saying you have boxes of silver age that will grade 9.6-9.8 doesn't inspire confidence, either. 

Understanding the market has nothing to do with not understanding how to streamline the grading process at all.  I stated I had shorts of silver-modern that would benefit from grading so please comprehend my statement before you reply.   I understand results but not how to get things organized for grading.  Fact is I would not grade for my PC but I am looking to unload some higher end modern variants.  

Edited June 6, 2021 by Mingaling

[Mingaling]

2 hours ago, ___!___!___ said:

Your writing style is not easily accessible.

But he's right when he says the quote "which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in" colors you as a complete Newb, right or wrong. You can't grade a book in a bag. Are you going by the dealers' grades on all 100ish books? 

Yeah because "silver-modern" isn't self-explanatory?  Mentioning the bags was to highlight not having touched most of these books myself.  Did you honestly think I was talking about polybags lol?  I suppose I could have broken it down further and it's my fault to have assumed a certain level of intellect and cognitive abilites in the CGC forums of all places. WTF are you trolling for?  Go away

Edited June 6, 2021 by Mingaling

[Galen130]

[Ryan.]

On 6/4/2021 at 7:30 PM, Mingaling said:

I have 100ish modern variants most of which I have not taken out of the bags they were sent in.  Should I be sending those in for a pre-screen as I am worried about a finger print knocking down the grade?  Also, if a pre-screen finds a defect that could be removed with a clean and/or press will I have the option to have that service performed to fix the problem or will it simply be sent back?  OOOF so many damn comics where to start lol.  Cheers

There are ways to take comics out of bags and inspect them without getting fingerprints on them. If you are familiar with how CGC grades for 9.8s then you don't need the pre screen option at all. You can be your own pre screener. I would never advise anyone send anything to CGC without first looking at the comics. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Ryan.

[Mingaling]

1 hour ago, Ryan. said:

There are ways to take comics out of bags and inspect them without getting fingerprints on them. If you are familiar with how CGC grades for 9.8s then you don't need the pre screen option at all. You can be your own pre screener. I would never advise anyone send anything to CGC without first looking at the comics. 

Yes I agree and I will of course.  I would be sending them in for pre-screening first of course only because if they are not at least 9.6 they are probably not worth grading.

 

[Mingaling]

1 hour ago, ___!___!___ said:

If you were actually smarter than us you wouldn't be asking us questions in the first place 

Of course I am probably smarter than you if your only contribution to this thread is to bash my lack of caring about every single ignorant persons comprehension.  You have nothing else of value to add to this discussion so why even troll?  Try harder to make a valid point or shhhh.

 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Mingaling

[shadroch]

5 hours ago, Mingaling said:

I know quite a bit about comic value, keys, short print in demand comics and ratio variants.  So yes out of my 6k comics the 4 or 5 short boxes of silver-modern would all bring in an elevated premium in the 9.8 and often 9.6 range.  

What part of this am I misunderstanding. You have 6,000 comics of which some 600 are silver-moderns that are 9.6-9.8

[Mingaling]

Just now, ___!___!___ said:

If you think is trolling you won't last long here you are a cliched prime candidate for trolling, the know-it-all Newb who doesn't know much 

Doesn't make you any less of a troll.  Obviously I do not know it all which is why I am asking for advice from people who have been through the process.  However, the issues you seem to have are not related to my origin questions.  Now that I am getting into selling I want to be as knowledgeable as I can be.  You seem to be confusing ignorance and intellect which says a lot about you. 

[Mingaling]

5 hours ago, shadroch said:

When a newcomer posts something like this, it doesn't fill me with confidence that they understand the market. Perhaps you do, perhaps you don't, but my advice would be to be very careful before sending in 100 books.

Saying you have boxes of silver age that will grade 9.6-9.8 doesn't inspire confidence, either. 

Your statement makes it sound like I have "boxes of silver" that will grade 9.6-9.8.  That isn't what I said and the way you phrased your statement is misleading.  If I read your statement out of context I would also think the OP was nuts. Of course I don't have lots of silver in high 9s.  

Edited June 6, 2021 by Mingaling

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[Mingaling]

1 hour ago, Fisionbomb said:

@Mingaling

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