kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:08 PM, Poekaymon said: I didn't realize this was a debate. The grading company that is providing you with this forum (as well as CBCS, for that matter) does not consider pressing to be restoration. It is therefore not restoration. Case closed. You (and Oakman) are free to have your own interpretations, of course, but your interpretations are not industry standard and likely never will be. Right but you have to go into the history of how CGC changed their mind on this. They may have, but others havent. Larryw7 and oakman29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I think it might be fair to say if CGC could detect pressing, it would then be considered restoration. djzombi and oakman29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 A lot of logical fallacies being tossed around in this thread. The dust one is a whole new level of absurdity. The fact is every one out there prefers books that haven't been pressed. Even people that press books (probably especially them). So there really should be a difference in valuation. But then that would break the game and we can't have that, can we? So let's get back to making 9.8s! RockMyAmadeus, MasterChief, oakman29 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I actually am not anti pressing. I think its ok. joey does it and he's smart. I would get a book pressed if it was high value-why not? Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 And yes I would much rather have an unpressed 9.0 than a pressed 9.0 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) On 11/5/2021 at 7:13 PM, Namtak said: That was a smart move from @Joe Peck to test the water like that,he got info and who is who ,smart move Thanks The biggest lesson here is that all threads eventually turn into debates on pressing Pretty simple as the discussion has become moot regardless of ones opinion (of which I have none - just ask my wife) Edited November 6, 2021 by Joe Peck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 8:12 PM, kav said: I think it might be fair to say if CGC could detect pressing, it would then be considered restoration. Nope. CGC needed pressing to fix books being damaged by their holder from the outset. If post-slabbing damage couldn’t be repaired without triggering a PLOD, CGC would have been in trouble. MetalPSI and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:54 PM, Fisionbomb said: On 11/5/2021 at 4:28 PM, Shawn Everidge said: Who cares if you need a machine or chemicals to do it? That's what she said. kav and Fisionbomb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted November 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 6:02 PM, kav said: removing dust isnt restoration and i got the snarky reply and Harumph This also works with comics.. silverseeker, kav, Namtak and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:15 PM, kav said: And yes I would much rather have an unpressed 9.0 than a pressed 9.0 for sure. But the real question would be would you take a unpressed 9.0 than a pressed 9.4-9.8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:36 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said: But the real question would be would you take a unpressed 9.0 than a pressed 9.4-9.8? silverseeker, onlyweaknesskryptonite and Namtak 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namtak Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 8:37 PM, kav said: Are you de-pressed? Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze_rules Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:36 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said: But the real question would be would you take a unpressed 9.0 than a pressed 9.4-9.8? The twist is it's the same comic, but with a $50,0000 increase in price tag. Larryw7, oakman29 and onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 5:13 PM, Randall Dowling said: A lot of logical fallacies being tossed around in this thread. The dust one is a whole new level of absurdity. The fact is every one out there prefers books that haven't been pressed. Even people that press books (probably especially them). So there really should be a difference in valuation. But then that would break the game and we can't have that, can we? So let's get back to making 9.8s! I am so against pressing I found out that I had a Showcase 22 cgc 4.5 with white pages mind you( very rarely do they give white page notation on a Showcase 22 ) and I sold it, got rid of it. Yes, I did inform the buyer that it was pressed. Sold it for nearly nothing , I was so heartbroken. djzombi, Namtak, Larryw7 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:39 PM, bronze_rules said: The twist is it's the same comic, but with a $50,0000 increase in price tag. That was sort of my point. oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:15 PM, kav said: joey does it and he's smart. Joey is a professional and approaches it accordingly. I've always found his work to be exceptional. Others, much less so. Larryw7 and kav 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:21 PM, Joe Peck said: Thanks The biggest lesson here is that all threads eventually turn into debates on pressing Pretty simple as the discussion has become moot regardless of ones opinion (of which I have none - just ask my wife) Wait until you have 3K posts. You will understand everything what we have gone through in last 10 years. Namtak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 6:01 PM, JollyComics said: Wait until you have 3K posts. You will understand everything what we have gone through in last 10 years. yep he'll be like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I think Joe Peck actually got a pretty good history lesson of the boards. 🙈🙉🙊 kav and Namtak 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 6:08 PM, oakman29 said: I think Joe Peck actually got a pretty good history lesson of the boards. 🙈🙉🙊 Larryw7 and oakman29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
