skypinkblu Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I received this on 11/16, which is interesting only because it was dated 10/29. In any case, they are announcing some changes. Print Notice of Amendment(s) to the United States PayPal Agreement(s) Issued: October 29, 2021 This Page This page details updates to PayPal users of changes to the United States PayPal User Agreement or other online agreements, policies, or statements that require notice. You can also review Past Policy Updates notices. Upcoming Changes We’re making changes to certain agreements (listed below) that govern your relationship with PayPal. These changes will take place automatically on the corresponding effective date(s) shown below. Actions Needed Please carefully review the notices below and familiarize yourself with the upcoming changes. Otherwise, no further action is needed from you to accept such changes. However, if you would prefer to decline them, then you will need to close your PayPal account prior to the applicable effective date, as described in the user agreement. Amendments to the PayPal User Agreement Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Relocating PayPal’s Buyer Protection program and Seller Protection program terms to separate web pages. These program terms are accepted at the time you agree to the User Agreement and remain part of the User Agreement. The relocation is intended to make the terms easier to locate and navigate. Revising PayPal’s Seller Protection program to clarify that proof of shipment and proof of delivery also must include an online verifiable tracking number. Clarifying that abuse of our online dispute resolution process, PayPal's Purchase Protection program, and/or PayPal’s Seller Protection program are restricted activities as defined under the user agreement. Amendments to the PayPal Data Protection Addendum for Card Processing Products Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Updating our PayPal Data Protection Addendum for Card Processing Products to incorporate the new Standard Contractual Clauses that were adopted by the European Commission in June 2021 as well as the UK standard contractual clauses. Amendments to the PayPal Online Card Payment Services Agreement Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Updating the Chargeback Protection Services terms to clarify that you must have a PayPal business account in good standing to be eligible for such services and to provide that PayPal has the right to cancel or suspend such services immediately if reasonable notice is impracticable in order to maintain the security of PayPal’s systems and/or your account is no longer in good standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 So, it looks like they have been making some changes. I haven't sold on eBay in about a year, so I guess I'd have to start from scratch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 1:03 PM, jhutton2 said: I bet this is a Canada specific policy 🤦. PayPal started to get their act together a few years ago for international transactions, seem to be going backwards now. more steps for buyers and sellers 😬 as well as long wait periods for accessing funds I am sure that is part of it, but they also flag accounts and hold funds for waffle sellers and people that use F&F as well most of the time they just close those accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief1332 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Sold 3 books within the last two weeks. All were PayPal transactions. On the larger purchase, PayPal withheld funds until delivery was confirmed. There could be an amount where this policy of withholding funds begins. OR, on the larger purchase, I invoiced the buyer vs the buyer sending me funds. Not sure if that made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief1332 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 What is most upsetting irt PayPal withholding funds, when they have capability to release funds right away, they will do so IF I pay an extra 1.5% on top of the basic transaction fee. So upsetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmeta Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Sounds like mostly Priority or Express mail if using USPS since you will have to have a online verifiable tracking number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 So we get our money if the USPS does their job? Because there has never been a screw-up with the tracking number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 It's tough with Paypal being the "Go To" method for payments for so long. But there are other options....transactions via Zelle and Venmo have been hassle free for me when sending AND receiving payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 12:32 PM, Kramerica said: It's tough with Paypal being the "Go To" method for payments for so long. But there are other options....transactions via Zelle and Venmo have been hassle free for me when sending AND receiving payments. Paypal owns Venmo so what is the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 8:54 AM, skypinkblu said: I received this on 11/16, which is interesting only because it was dated 10/29. In any case, they are announcing some changes. Print Notice of Amendment(s) to the United States PayPal Agreement(s) Issued: October 29, 2021 This Page This page details updates to PayPal users of changes to the United States PayPal User Agreement or other online agreements, policies, or statements that require notice. You can also review Past Policy Updates notices. Upcoming Changes We’re making changes to certain agreements (listed below) that govern your relationship with PayPal. These changes will take place automatically on the corresponding effective date(s) shown below. Actions Needed Please carefully review the notices below and familiarize yourself with the upcoming changes. Otherwise, no further action is needed from you to accept such changes. However, if you would prefer to decline them, then you will need to close your PayPal account prior to the applicable effective date, as described in the user agreement. Amendments to the PayPal User Agreement Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Relocating PayPal’s Buyer Protection program and Seller Protection program terms to separate web pages. These program terms are accepted at the time you agree to the User Agreement and remain part of the User Agreement. The relocation is intended to make the terms easier to locate and navigate. Revising PayPal’s Seller Protection program to clarify that proof of shipment and proof of delivery also must include an online verifiable tracking number. Clarifying that abuse of our online dispute resolution process, PayPal's Purchase Protection program, and/or PayPal’s Seller Protection program are restricted activities as defined under the user agreement. Amendments to the PayPal Data Protection Addendum for Card Processing Products Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Updating our PayPal Data Protection Addendum for Card Processing Products to incorporate the new Standard Contractual Clauses that were adopted by the European Commission in June 2021 as well as the UK standard contractual clauses. Amendments to the PayPal Online Card Payment Services Agreement Effective December 10, 2021, we are: Updating the Chargeback Protection Services terms to clarify that you must have a PayPal business account in good standing to be eligible for such services and to provide that PayPal has the right to cancel or suspend such services immediately if reasonable notice is impracticable in order to maintain the security of PayPal’s systems and/or your account is no longer in good standing. Not sure why this is a big deal since I send customers tracking #'s. However, I'm not sure if paypal is updating their website so that you have to put the tracking # in the payment from the customer. Normally If there is a dispute the first thing you usually send are the tracking #'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 12:37 PM, blazingbob said: Not sure why this is a big deal since I send customers tracking #'s. However, I'm not sure if paypal is updating their website so that you have to put the tracking # in the payment from the customer. Normally If there is a dispute the first thing you usually send are the tracking #'s. I didn't think any of it was a big deal, that's why it was in my deleted emails. However, I thought it was interesting that it took them 2 weeks to send it out, so I figured perhaps they were in the midst of changes. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 9:34 AM, blazingbob said: Paypal owns Venmo so what is the difference? I believe that if I send you money for a book on your site you won't be charged a fee. Same with Zelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...