Lumsifu Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) Hello! New here, Sorry for the bad pictures. Thoughts after a super nice press and clean? Hoping it will stay at "white" pages Thank you!! Edited February 23, 2022 by Lumsifu updating title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 any thoughts fellow collectors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 What's the original grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 1:07 PM, grendelbo said: What's the original grade? 6.0 white pages old label w/ no notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 2:42 PM, Lumsifu said: 6.0 white pages old label w/ no notes. I think it'll bump to a 7.5 with a C&P. 8.0 wouldn't surprise me either. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 5:01 PM, grendelbo said: I think it'll bump to a 7.5 with a C&P. 8.0 wouldn't surprise me either. Thanks for posting. With that near book length colour-breaking crease on the back cover? djzombi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 3:20 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: With that near book length colour-breaking crease on the back cover? It doesn't appear to break cover the entire length. A good press will help. And with how CGC is grading nowadays ... yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 2:01 PM, grendelbo said: I think it'll bump to a 7.5 with a C&P. 8.0 wouldn't surprise me either. Thanks for posting. appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 2:31 PM, grendelbo said: It doesn't appear to break cover the entire length. A good press will help. And with how CGC is grading nowadays ... yes. No color break on the back cover (). The only color break i see is the vertical speckling (middle left of FC). I was told this is pretty common for hulk 181. Hoping it doesn't hurt my grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 5:37 PM, Lumsifu said: No color break on the back cover (). The only color break i see is the vertical speckling (middle left of FC). I was told this is pretty common for hulk 181. Hoping it doesn't hurt my grade. My bad I thought the reflection of the light was white from a color break through the red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 3:56 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: My bad I thought the reflection of the light was white from a color break through the red It looks like it does break color in the red but after a press I see it as being only a couple of inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 5:59 PM, grendelbo said: It looks like it does break color in the red but after a press I see it as being only a couple of inches. A VF can’t have a color breaking crease 2 inches long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 3:02 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: A VF can’t have a color breaking crease 2 inches long Oh man, maybe it's better to keep it as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 2:59 PM, grendelbo said: It looks like it does break color in the red but after a press I see it as being only a couple of inches. On 2/5/2022 at 3:02 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: A VF can’t have a color breaking crease 2 inches long It'll be P & C by tomorrow. I would love to share the final results and get a better answer from everyone. THE_BEYONDER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 5:16 PM, Lumsifu said: It'll be P & C by tomorrow. I would love to share the final results and get a better answer from everyone. To be honest with you. It may be slightly improved by half point. That crease that broke the color. It may stay at 6.0. The worst part is P & C that will take up to 6 or more months before moving to CGC that will add 60 more days if you are using Standard Tier. I have two books are still sitting at CCS since 10/21/2021. Wait for the pressing after the restoration removals for both books. I have seen people here are still waiting back in April. Once the books are pressed, they will move to CGC for 195 more days (Economy Tier). I won't see my books until September or October 2022. It sucks. It's your call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawnipi Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 8:14 PM, JollyComics said: To be honest with you. It may be slightly improved by half point. That crease that broke the color. It may stay at 6.0. The worst part is P & C that will take up to 6 or more months before moving to CGC that will add 60 more days if you are using Standard Tier. I have two books are still sitting at CCS since 10/21/2021. Wait for the pressing after the restoration removals for both books. I have seen people here are still waiting back in April. Once the books are pressed, they will move to CGC for 195 more days (Economy Tier). I won't see my books until September or October 2022. It sucks. It's your call. Are you able to sneak a book of this value in the economy or standard tier? Even at 6.0 grade, that's a 5k book. Figured it would need to be walk through or express at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) On 2/5/2022 at 8:27 PM, Kawnipi said: Are you able to sneak a book of this value in the economy or standard tier? Even at 6.0 grade, that's a 5k book. Figured it would need to be walk through or express at worst. Yes, that is true unless you are willing to pay more money out of your pocket. Walk Through is 3% of FMV and Express is $130. Before two price hikes, it was only $95 for Express Tier. Before the pandemic, it was only five day turnaround but it's now 16 day turnaround (that was the original turnaround for Standard tier). So, if you want to use P & C, you have to wait for 6-8 months at CCS before moving to CGC for grading. You have to pick any tier before CCS. I think FMV or Express is not worthy spending money after more than a year of waiting from CCS. I prefer slow track Standard or Economy. Edited February 6, 2022 by JollyComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Zipper Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 8:14 PM, JollyComics said: To be honest with you. It may be slightly improved by half point. That crease that broke the color. It may stay at 6.0. The worst part is P & C that will take up to 6 or more months before moving to CGC that will add 60 more days if you are using Standard Tier. I have two books are still sitting at CCS since 10/21/2021. Wait for the pressing after the restoration removals for both books. I have seen people here are still waiting back in April. Once the books are pressed, they will move to CGC for 195 more days (Economy Tier). I won't see my books until September or October 2022. It sucks. It's your call. Agree. That is a significant crease that will not be pressed away. Even if the color isn't broken the entire length, the paper fibers are sharply creased. Maybe a 6.5... but would not be surprised if it stays the same. Great front cover eye appeal though. JollyComics and Lumsifu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 6:44 PM, JollyComics said: Yes, that is true unless you are willing to pay more money out of your pocket. Walk Through is 3% of FMV and Express is $130. Before two price hikes, it was only $95 for Express Tier. Before the pandemic, it was only five day turnaround but it's now 16 day turnaround (that was the original turnaround for Standard tier). So, if you want to use P & C, you have to wait for 6-8 months at CCS before moving to CGC for grading. You have to pick any tier before CCS. I think FMV or Express is not worthy spending money after more than a year of waiting from CCS. I prefer slow track Standard or Economy. Jolly, sorry to hear about your books, I still have a few with CGC. My hulk181 is currently in transit to my presser. I'm hoping to share pictures with you all. On 2/5/2022 at 6:27 PM, Kawnipi said: Are you able to sneak a book of this value in the economy or standard tier? Even at 6.0 grade, that's a 5k book. Figured it would need to be walk through or express at worst. Kawnipi, i'm about to go back to work within 1-2 weeks. I know its nuts, I did walkthrough and want to be home for it. UPS delivered my book to someone else. On 2/6/2022 at 8:06 AM, Mr. Zipper said: Agree. That is a significant crease that will not be pressed away. Even if the color isn't broken the entire length, the paper fibers are sharply creased. Maybe a 6.5... but would not be surprised if it stays the same. Great front cover eye appeal though. Thank you, Mr. Zipper. Colors are super bright. Thank you EVERYONE for all the advice and opinions! I know its not a HIGH grade, I'm just happy to have a 181 for my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumsifu Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 As promised . Sorry for the delay. I'm no expert but i thinking "possible" grade bump ? Saw a color break top right FC corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...