PeterPark Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 11:41 AM, Lazyboy said: Simply having more words does not make a comic better. The best comic writers are hardly stingy with their words, but they know how and when to use (and not use) them. Sure, but I didn't mean filler. There were more-involved stories. This is compared to some of the stuff in the 90's when it was all flashy splashes on expensive paper... Alan Moore is always good for some involved exposition. I am referring to Ditko's 9 panel pages and the like; there is a lot going on on one page. Larryw7, MattTheDuck and Readcomix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Back in the 1980s, I had a customer who was an art teacher at a nearby high school. One day he brought in what he said was an art project John Romita Jr had done a few years before. It was a recreation, panel by panel of Defenders 34. I traded him some stuff for it and figured I'd eventually get JRJR to sign it. Over the years I showed it to many people and everyone agreed it was a great find. Around 2015, after thirty or so years, I finally get around to asking him to sign it. I expect him to be excited and surprised by his high school art project, but he tells me he has never seen this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 2:35 PM, shadroch said: Back in the 1980s, I had a customer who was an art teacher at a nearby high school. One day he brought in what he said was an art project John Romita Jr had done a few years before. It was a recreation, panel by panel of Defenders 34. I traded him some stuff for it and figured I'd eventually get JRJR to sign it. Over the years I showed it to many people and everyone agreed it was a great find. Around 2015, after thirty or so years, I finally get around to asking him to sign it. I expect him to be excited and surprised by his high school art project, but he tells me he has never seen this before. Still got them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Not really. Once I found out they weren't his, I gave away a few pages to people who liked them, and the rest went when I sold the last of my stuff. I believe I saved one page, just as a souvenir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 2:50 PM, shadroch said: Not really. Once I found out they weren't his, I gave away a few pages to people who liked them, and the rest went when I sold the last of my stuff. I believe I saved one page, just as a souvenir. Maybe he just forgot It was high school Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 2:48 PM, serling1978 said: I would prefer actors to come to my house and act out ASM 121 and 122. I'll use crayons to create the backgrounds on my walls. I can just imagine it. The George Washington Bridge in crayon and Sharpie, maybe. Larryw7 and serling1978 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) It's been done... and recently. They did it with GI Joe 21. For the anniversary of ARAH, they redid the book panel by panel using modern GI Joe artists. I wound up buying a page of the art from one of the artists. I cannot find the anniversary issue online so I can show the comparison of the original page and the art. Edited January 27, 2023 by Buzzetta Larryw7, Jesse-Lee, Gonzimodo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse-Lee Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 7:10 PM, Buzzetta said: It's been done... and recently. They did it with GI Joe 21. For the anniversary of ARAH, they redid the book panel by panel using modern GI Joe artists. I wound up buying a page of the art from one of the artists. I cannot find the anniversary issue online so I can show the comparison of the original page and the art. Cool, I'm definitely going to check this out! Also, that's a sweet page! Edited January 27, 2023 by Jesse-Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I found another page on CAF... this is the Netho Diaz remake. My page came from Jamie Sullivan. So as you were inquiring, each page was done in a different style. Brandon Shepherd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse-Lee Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 7:15 PM, Buzzetta said: I found another page on CAF... this is the Netho Diaz remake. My page came from Jamie Sullivan. So as you were inquiring, each page was done in a different style. This is great - and this is also probably the perfect book to do something like this, since you don't have to worry about dialogue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:41 AM, Lazyboy said: Simply having more words does not make a comic better. The best comic writers are hardly stingy with their words, but they know how and when to use (and not use) them. Agreed! Here is a sample of some brilliant writing from one of my favorite writers Muno42, Readcomix, Gonzimodo and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 8:10 PM, Buzzetta said: It's been done... and recently. They did it with GI Joe 21. For the anniversary of ARAH, they redid the book panel by panel using modern GI Joe artists. I wound up buying a page of the art from one of the artists. I cannot find the anniversary issue online so I can show the comparison of the original page and the art. On 1/26/2023 at 8:15 PM, Buzzetta said: I found another page on CAF... this is the Netho Diaz remake. My page came from Jamie Sullivan. So as you were inquiring, each page was done in a different style. These both have that vibe of a classic song being remade by a modern pop singer where live instruments get replaced with the latest studio software. I’d be a lot less “meh” if either of the newer artists told the story in an original way instead of just copying the panels in their own style. They’re interpreting the art instead of the story being told, maybe at the editor’s instructions, which seems like a lack of confidence in their creativity but given the opportunity to shine, they both should’ve tried to knock it out of the park but I’m only speaking for myself here. To each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzimodo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 12:25 PM, B2D327 said: These both have that vibe of a classic song being remade by a modern pop singer where live instruments get replaced with the latest studio software. I’d be a lot less “meh” if either of the newer artists told the story in an original way instead of just copying the panels in their own style. They’re interpreting the art instead of the story being told, maybe at the editor’s instructions, which seems like a lack of confidence in their creativity but given the opportunity to shine, they both should’ve tried to knock it out of the park but I’m only speaking for myself here. To each his own Most of the artists just aped the layout of the original. The only one I remember that stood out as different to me was Rob Liefeld's page. He changed some of the action slightly (with a swinging kick showing Snake Eyes's feet prominently ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzimodo Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 1:20 PM, Gonzimodo said: Most of the artists just aped the layout of the original. The only one I remember that stood out as different to me was Rob Liefeld's page. He changed some of the action slightly (with a swinging kick showing Snake Eyes's feet prominently ). Oh, yeah, and Adam Riches also changed Destro's chess pieces into '80s GI Joe action figures, which I found kind of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarybethR_Boyd Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 In my opinion, Marvel has enough money to make their comics and republish them. On the other hand, DC probably doesn't want to waste time or money. As for artists, there was simply no normal search for specialists, there is not a single person who would like to become a comic book artist (well, of course from those who can draw). D2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 It seems like these kinds of remakes will be done over and over (and mostly poorly) forever once the originals fall into public domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave2739 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 12:58 PM, MarybethR_Boyd said: In my opinion, Marvel has enough money to make their comics and republish them. On the other hand, DC probably doesn't want to waste time or money. As for artists, there was simply no normal search for specialists, there is not a single person who would like to become a comic book artist (well, of course from those who can draw). Welcome to the boards. Your post sounds like it was written by a bot. Are you a bot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 12:43 PM, Dave2739 said: Welcome to the boards. Your post sounds like it was written by a bot. Are you a bot? That seems likely, but where's the shady link? I'm confused. Dave2739 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted July 18, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/18/2023 at 1:49 PM, Lazyboy said: On 7/18/2023 at 1:43 PM, Dave2739 said: Welcome to the boards. Your post sounds like it was written by a bot. Are you a bot? That seems likely, but where's the shady link? I'm confused. Spammers are getting smart. I often find them creating first posts that may be acceptable, only to later find that they have edited the post after approval to include a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarybethR_Boyd Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Why so immediately?.. How do you advise writing messages?... Immediately ban for bad sentences, ban for links, ban for off-topic posts?... Then what are these discussions for?... I went and looked at the necessary information, and why should I leave the site and forget about it?... I understand that everyone pursues his own goal, but is the community for communication or not?... : ((( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
