PGM X-Men #120 with unwitnessed interior John Byrne signature 1 1

[atticus.fetch]

I have been working through my run of X-Men and came across a John Byrne signature on the first interior page of my X-Men #120 (1st cameo of Alpha Flight). I was considering submitting this for the Chris Claremont signature series but wondering how this interior writing might affect the grade. Does anyone know and if so, would it be better to submit to CBCS for signature verification. I did not have this book personally signed -- I didn't even know the signature was there until I went to grade it -- but it looks legit.

Here are the scans and a photo of the interior page:

Edited March 2, 2023 by atticus.fetch

[scburdet]

You would get a yellow label for CC, and a thin green qualified strip above. Looks around a 9.0/9.2 otherwise

[atticus.fetch]

On 3/2/2023 at 10:44 AM, scburdet said:

You would get a yellow label for CC, and a thin green qualified strip above. Looks around a 9.0/9.2 otherwise

Do you have to do anything special on the submission to denote this request?

Also, which would be better to submit to the CC SS: this one or X-Men #121 (1st full appearance of Alpha Flight) in even better condition (9.4-9.6 in my estimation) or both?

Also, is anyone familiar with how CBCS would handle the interior signature? Would they verify it and slap a yellow label on it?

[scburdet]

I am not familiar with the CBCS process other than knowing they do sig verification. The downside to slabbing this one is that the unverified signature will be inside. A green label where you can see the signature allows a buyer to do their own amateur verification. Taking anything on faith with collectables is dicey. Beyond that, you just have to assess based on sales/personal preference whether the investment in signature is worthwhile. Sign/grade is going to be more expensive unless you have a standard tier book, where it will be about the same cost, or a higher tier book where it could be cheaper. A lot of collectors thumb their noses at signed blue chip books, other collectors love them. There's no real rule here other than what you want personally.

[Nilo2]

That's a very presentable copy that you have there. My guess is that it would come in somewhere between 8.5-9.2. If you submit the book to CGC for the Clairmont signing, you will automatically receive the yellow and green label that @atticus.fetch referenced. I'm not a huge fan of green labels because they usually suggest some kind of exception or defect to the book worth noting. If you submit the book to CBCS for their verified signature program, the book will comeback slabbed in one of their yellow labels. They use the same label for both verified and witnessed signatures (assuming it's authentic of course)...

[atticus.fetch]

On 3/2/2023 at 3:30 PM, Nilo2 said:

That's a very presentable copy that you have there. My guess is that it would come in somewhere between 8.5-9.2. If you submit the book to CGC for the Clairmont signing, you will automatically receive the yellow and green label that @atticus.fetch referenced. I'm not a huge fan of green labels because they usually suggest some kind of exception or defect to the book worth noting. If you submit the book to CBCS for their verified signature program, the book will comeback slabbed in one of their yellow labels. They use the same label for both verified and witnessed signatures (assuming it's authentic of course)...

So which do you think is more valuable: submit to the CC signature series and get a yellow/green label with a mention of some writing inside or submit to CBCS and potentially get a yellow label for a verified Byrne signature forgoing the Claremont signature. I already have a dozen other books in similar condition I am considering submitting for the CC signature (including a better condition #121).

[Nilo2]

On 3/2/2023 at 6:59 PM, atticus.fetch said:

So which do you think is more valuable: submit to the CC signature series and get a yellow/green label with a mention of some writing inside or submit to CBCS and potentially get a yellow label for a verified Byrne signature forgoing the Claremont signature. I already have a dozen other books in similar condition I am considering submitting for the CC signature (including a better condition #121).

I would submit this particular book to CBCS and the others to CGC for the Clairmont signature. At some point, Clairmont will probably do a signing event with CBCS and you can submit #120 then. Just my two cents though.

[grendelbo]

8.5/9.0

It's not going to get the Qualified label since the signature is on the interior splash page.

Here's a higher grade example:

This was a Universal 9.2 before I cracked it. No way I wasn't going to look at that interior sketch.

Thanks for posting.

[LowGradeBronze]

The X Men 120 looks 9.0, maybe 9.4 even. Tough in high grade with that much black!

[AlbertMil]

On 3/2/2023 at 6:53 PM, atticus.fetch said:

I have been working through my run of X-Men and came across a John Byrne signature on the first interior page of my X-Men #120 (1st cameo of Alpha Flight). I was considering submitting this for the Chris Claremont signature series but wondering how this interior writing might affect the grade. Does anyone know and if so, would it be better to submit to CBCS for signature verification. I did not have this book personally signed -- I didn't even know the signature was there until I went to grade it -- but it looks legit.

Here are the scans and a photo of the interior page:

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Wow, what a find! If you're thinking of submitting it for the Chris Claremont signature series, you might be wondering how the interior writing could affect the grade. I'm not sure about that specifically, but you could consider reaching out to CBCS for signature verification. 

Edited May 30, 2023 by AlbertMil