Perfect VS Pristine on cards without subgrades 0

[Slewfoot]

Hello, I thought I heard somewhere that if you dont choose subgrades, you cannot get Perfect condition, only Pristine. Is that correct?

[Burly]

I asked this exact question to CSG customer service last week on the phone.  They confirmed that with no subgrades, a card could possibly receive a pristine 10 but not a perfect 10.

Edited March 28, 2021 by Burly

[Matt Macaluso]

This... On top of the label looking empty without subs, is all the more reason to get them. I do think $10 is nuts though. It's not like they are not already grading those aspects of each card, regardless if paid for or not.

-Matt

Edited March 28, 2021 by Matt Macaluso

[tiedyejim]

HI Matt,

I can't argue with your statement. That said, the $10 charge is a way for them to keep grading costs low.

The added value of the subgrades to the consumer is easily regained in values either for resale or long term hold. IMHO

Jim 

[Robert Grades]

I had this Tom Brady graded here a few weeks ago. Does anyone think if I sent it back for re-grading WITH subs, I might get a 10? Is that possible or just throwing money out the window.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Andy Gardecki]

2 hours ago, Robert Grades said:

I had this Tom Brady graded here a few weeks ago. Does anyone think if I sent it back for re-grading WITH subs, I might get a 10? Is that possible or just throwing money out the window.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.  Adding sub grades to it won't make it a 10.  The conversation here is if you don't use sub grades and get a 10 then you won't ever know if your 10 is a Pristine (3 out of 4 10 grades) or a Perfect (all 4 10's).  If you got a 9.5 then it indicates that you got at least 2 9.5 sub grades even if they don't show on the card.  The best case scenario for you is that your card will come back as 9.5 with 2 9.5 and 2 10 subs.

[Matt Macaluso]

21 hours ago, tiedyejim said:

HI Matt,

I can't argue with your statement. That said, the $10 charge is a way for them to keep grading costs low.

The added value of the subgrades to the consumer is easily regained in values either for resale or long term hold. IMHO

Jim 

That may be true... but I don't want to be covering the costs to keep the prices down for the bulk with no subs. I'd prefer to see that cost come up a few bucks and have the subs drop the same amount.

Instead of $8 and $18 I'd rather it be $11 and $15. That serves the purpose of them most likely getting more people to pay $4 more for subs. They'd get people to pay $15 instead of $8.

-Matt

[Slewfoot]

On a side note then, could you resub your 10 Pristine w/o subgrades and see if they become 10 Perfect with subgrades?

 

[jsrva]

Has anyone received a Perfect or Pristine 10 back? Just curious...

[Robert Grades]

5 hours ago, jsrva said:

Has anyone received a Perfect or Pristine 10 back? Just curious...

NO.  And I will leave it at that. 

[Matt Macaluso]

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Edited April 1, 2021 by Matt Macaluso

[Matt Macaluso]

On 3/29/2021 at 6:03 PM, jsrva said:

Has anyone received a Perfect or Pristine 10 back? Just curious...

I've seen 1 pristine in the wild. 

-Matt

[Matt Macaluso]

On 3/29/2021 at 5:24 PM, Slewfoot said:

On a side note then, could you resub your 10 Pristine w/o subgrades and see if they become 10 Perfect with subgrades?

 

Yes. 

-Matt