Final Grading CGC?

[12c_Comic]

When they make them final grade on a comic how much would you say is given to the cover of the book and how much is given to the pages inside?

 

Example Final Grade

 

Cover 95%

Pages 5%

[murph0]

Front Cover - 65 percent

Back Cover - 32 percent

Pages - 3 percent

I haven't seen anything that makes me really feel like the page quality comes into very much play regarding a grade.

 

Brian

[aardvark88]

Front cvr 50%, back cvr 45%, pgs 5%. Corner creases ....

[ninanina]

I'm under the opinion that very little comes into play as far as the back cover goes. Probably closer to 15%, if that. Anyone remember some of those awful back covers a couple months ago (on Heritage I think) that were graded like 9.0 or something?

[joe_collector]

Yeah, but they were Golden Age, which isn't the same thing. I could wipe my butt with a CGC 9.4 GA and it would likely get a 9.6 on re-submit.

[Bugaboo-migration]

. I could wipe my butt with a CGC 9.4 GA and it would likely get a 9.6 on re-submit.

Anybody game for testing that out? Because that certainly smells like a challenge to me (pun intended).

[fantastic_four]

It may be more of an exponential dropoff for page quality below cream...hard to say until we've seen more grading examples. The highest grades I've seen so far for the various page whitenesses are:

 

• Off-white to white - 10.0
• off-white - 9.9
• cream to off-white - 9.8
• cream - 9.4
• tan to off-white - 9.0
• slightly brittle - 6.5

I'm sure there are other examples for the tan, cream, and slightly brittle page qualities with higher grades...I don't look at many Golden Age books, which are the most likely candidates for those PQ levels.

[12c_Comic]

Curious but if I were to submit a S.A. comic with only the cover front and back but no pages of that comic,would it be slabbed?

[comicmankev]

0.5 incomplete. But may come with a note that reads 'if anyone finds the internals and submits together with this it'll get a 9.6'

[12c_Comic]

There must be a cgc copy of 9.8 only cover of A. Fantasy #15 out there.....I'd be a happy camper....

[comicmankev]

Maybe a qualified grade, '0.5 BUT IF YOU FIND THE PAGES, A 9.6'

[Gorgo]

My experience has been that a lot is given to page quality, and I think that is a good way to grade. A couple of examples below where the books are structurally flawless (no dings, creases or significant spine wear), but stored in less than ideal conditions (i.e. a cardboard box for 20 years, etc.). I've bought some books, however, that look the same in terms of page quality & received VF/NM to NM. A tough issue to tackle. Page quality 20%, cover 50%, back cover & other 20%.

 

 

 

 

[joe_collector]

But Gorgo that's really getting to "cover page quality" and toning as well, rather than simply the quality of the internal pages.

 

Different animal.

[Gorgo]

Joe, good point. My understanding is that cover gloss, brightness & other factors weigh in as well. I've submitted a range of different books with variations in page quality from front to back, with the exterior pages being cream and the interior being in the OW-W realm. One thing I've really noticed is that there is a disparity between the books I buy & those I've submitted in this realm.