Obadiah Oldbuck vs. Superman

[BLBcomics-migration]

How do you know what it is?

I have a strange feeling you'll be selling some of these picture books soon.

 

 

yes, i will agree, you are strange

 

and where are your scans of your copy, since you know what is inside of it?

[ShoNuff-migration]

pretty funny considering you cannot get the story straight

 

That was one copy Steve hounded me into selling to him and one of my kids needed some expensive medical tests at the time

Here's hoping nobody you know needs an operation soon, or you'll probably be selling one of your cats as a rare miniature tiger for $50,000.

[ShoNuff-migration]

and where are your scans of your copy, since you know what is inside of it?

I don't own a copy...since I only collect comic books.

[BLBcomics-migration]

 

THE WONDERFUL AND AMUSING DOINGS BY SEA AND LAND OF OSCAR SHANGHAI

originally published by Garrett & Co, NYC, 100 pages, 25 cent cover price

 

2nd printing of a comic book from circa 1852-55 - also inspired by Obadiah Oldbuck, below

 

[ShoNuff-migration]

Some more cool picture books.

 

Surely you have some comic books you could post as well.

[BLBcomics-migration]

 

BACHELOR'S OWN BOOK, America's second comic book, 1845,

52 pages, cover price a whoppin 31-1/4 cents

[ShoNuff-migration]

That isn't a comic book either.

[BLBcomics-migration]

 

page 8 from the 1842 Obadiah oldbuck comic book

[ShoNuff-migration]

You've made a mistake.

 

That's just a book of pictures with narrations under them.

 

It's not a comic book.

[BLBcomics-migration]

 

Front cover to the 3rd Tilt & Bogue Topffer comic book 1843, not printed in America

[ShoNuff-migration]

Front cover to the 3rd Tilt & Bogue Topffer comic book 1843, not printed in America

It looks like you've made another huge mistake, Bob. That's not a comic book either. Here's a picture of a real comic book. Let me know if I can be of further help to you.

 

[Shield]

You've made a mistake.

 

That's just a book of pictures with narrations under them.

 

It's not a comic book.

 

Here's an actual real comic book for you, Sho'Nuff.

 

[ShoNuff-migration]

Here's an actual real comic book for you, Sho'Nuff.

 

Sweet!!! Someone who finally knows what a real comic book is.

 

It's also funny, because I just posted your copy of Zip Comics #15 right before you posted.

[BLBcomics-migration]

you are a comics illiterate

 

those are comics magazines

[Aman619]

 

page 8 from the 1842 Obadiah oldbuck comic book

 

Bob, a question you may have answered already: The line work on this looks a bit "off". not very contraolled and original. Since its a reprint, were the original plates used, or was it (as I suspect) entirely traced and new plates made? The lines look trced over a finished image rather than coming from a "mental image."

 

and, these were all created as etchings right? Because they predate photographic techniques. I dont think lithography is ideal for thin lines, and those are large stones, too many for a book of 200 drawings.

[BLBcomics-migration]

 

page 8 from the 1842 Obadiah oldbuck comic book

 

Bob, a question you may have answered already: The line work on this looks a bit "off". not very contraolled and original. Since its a reprint, were the original plates used, or was it (as I suspect) entirely traced and new plates made? The lines look trced over a finished image rather than coming from a "mental image."

 

and, these were all created as etchings right? Because they predate photographic techniques. I dont think lithography is ideal for thin lines, and those are large stones, too many for a book of 200 drawings.

 

You are on the money, here

 

In the days before photo lithography, when one wanted to reprint something, one had to re-draw it onto new plates.

 

So, The 1839 Paris Aubert edition was re-drawn to print,and when Tilt & Bogue in London used that printing to make theirs, it was re-drawn again in London with English words inserted where the French was

 

Töpffer's innovation was using the earliest forms of stone lithography in 1828 in that one drew on normal paper with carbon grease on the back, that was then rubbed off when re-tracing onto the stone

 

Prior to that, one had to draw mirror reverse and have it etched onto a metal plate or a wood cut was made by a master craftsman

 

By the 1840s when Topffer was doing his comic books that have not yet been translated into English for us who reads that language, the earliest forms of photo lithography come into play

 

Topffer himself redrew his earlier comicbooks several times, enhancing each printing with more detailed back grounds

 

The 1840s versions go beyond Topffer's earliest experiments tech wise in the printing

 

the USA edition used the original Tilt & Bogue printing plates made in 1841 and brought over on the very first cross Atlantic steam ship, IIRC, called Great Eastern

 

have i answered correctly? - i most likely need to fill in more blanks here

[ShoNuff-migration]

you are a comics illiterate

 

 

those are comics magazines

You're showing that you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.

 

You're posting picture books. I'm posting real comic books. Here's another real comic book.

 

[BLBcomics-migration]

doesn't say comic book

 

looks like a magazine rag to me

[ShoNuff-migration]

doesn't say comic book

 

looks like a magazine rag to me

None of the picture books you posted say comic book on them.

 

Here's a picture of another real comic book. Stick around, kid...I'll help educate you so you don't look so ignorant.

 

[Aman619]

the USA edition used the original Tilt & Bogue printing plates made in 1841 and brought over on the very first cross Atlantic steam ship, IIRC, called Great Eastern

 

so, if that ship had gone down, there'd be no comicbooks in America!!