Amazing Spider-Man Collecting Thread! 37 37

[Peter Loves Gwen]

That book had about 5 seconds left when I got back into the site. I went back to my bid page first, and the #31 was the next one ending. I didn't have time to enter a price and hit the two pages.

 

I also noticed a lot of the books after those were slow, a lot of bidders evidently went away or stopped waiting. The 9.6 and 9.4 #52's went cheap as well, and that was several minutes later.

[Peter Loves Gwen]

There were a ton of sweet books in there, it's a shame that some of them didn't get a fair chance to auction off properly. Regards,

[mysterio]

I noticed that the site completely locked up too. It seems to have resolved itself, but I wonder what happened. It can't be good for Clink to off that many sellers, and of course the freeze had to happen during the Amazings...

[showcase22gr1959]

I'm sure the sellers aren't going to be happy. I would be quite if I had a major key up for sale and that happened.

Edited November 17, 2010 by showcase22gr1959

[mysterio]

I'm sure the sellers aren't going to be happy. I would be quite if I had a major key up for sale and that happened.

 

Hmmm, you think that Clink may be dropping the sales commissions on a bunch of ASMs to try to make it right with a few sellers? I don't see how they can charge the 10% if their site went and froze up right when a bunch of nice books were ending. And on a Featured Auction no less.

[showcase22gr1959]

I'm sure the sellers aren't going to be happy. I would be quite if I had a major key up for sale and that happened.

 

Hmmm, you think that Clink may be dropping the sales commissions on a bunch of ASMs to try to make it right with a few sellers? I don't see how they can charge the 10% if their site went and froze up right when a bunch of nice books were ending. And on a Featured Auction no less.

 

I don't know, but I would complain and have them take care of it like you have said.

[Peter Loves Gwen]

That ASM 31 looks like the most affected, even though it went off right after the site was back up. How do you make it up to a seller who could very likely have expected the sale price to be $1000 greater than it is? That seller is potentially out $900, and Clink just $100.

[showcase22gr1959]

Just imagine if it wasn't an experience seller, the buyer and the auctioneer wins.

[cheetah]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

[mysterio]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

 

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

[JiveTurkeyMoFo]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

 

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

 

Ah yes, and don't forget the angry Winning Bidders who will have something to complain about too.

[Peter Loves Gwen]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

 

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

 

Ah yes, and don't forget the angry Winning Bidders who will have something to complain about too.

 

Yes, exactly, that's the dilemma, they cannot really fix it. Pulling them entirely as cheetah suggested is the most fair thing they could do. But they'd have to do it really quickly, as in now or tonight. Once people start paying for the books it becomes more complicated still.

 

I think that CLink could look hard at the bids at the very end of the auctions and figure out which ones were affected greatly.

[JiveTurkeyMoFo]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

 

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

 

Ah yes, and don't forget the angry Winning Bidders who will have something to complain about too.

 

Yes, exactly, that's the dilemma, they cannot really fix it. Pulling them entirely as cheetah suggested is the most fair thing they could do. But they'd have to do it really quickly, as in now or tonight. Once people start paying for the books it becomes more complicated still.

 

I think that CLink could look hard at the bids at the very end of the auctions and figure out which ones were affected greatly.

 

Can they? Several books sold for GPA or more during the time of the outage, do those sellers give it another go as well? Are they going to be given a chance to relist their books? Will C-Link make it mandatory that they do, or will they "pick and choose" who was affected and who wasn't?

 

Assuming C-link are able to narrow down the actual time of the outage, what about those books that ended just thereafter? Wouldn't the sellers have a point if they said that despite the site being back online, who knows how many buyers gave up and quit trying to bid? How long do you extend that time frame? 5 minutes after the outage? 10? Again, more buyers are going to get ticked if arbitrary decisions are made here.

 

 

 

[mysterio]

I expect they will pull those issues from the final auction and put them in the next. I was surprised when the auction restarted. The same thing happened to ComicConnect on their first auction and they delayed the whole thing by a day.

 

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

 

Ah yes, and don't forget the angry Winning Bidders who will have something to complain about too.

 

Yes, exactly, that's the dilemma, they cannot really fix it. Pulling them entirely as cheetah suggested is the most fair thing they could do. But they'd have to do it really quickly, as in now or tonight. Once people start paying for the books it becomes more complicated still.

 

I think that CLink could look hard at the bids at the very end of the auctions and figure out which ones were affected greatly.

 

Can they? Several books sold for GPA or more during the time of the outage, do those sellers give it another go as well? Are they going to be given a chance to relist their books? Will C-Link make it mandatory that they do, or will they "pick and choose" who was affected and who wasn't?

 

Assuming C-link are able to narrow down the actual time of the outage, what about those books that ended just thereafter? Wouldn't the sellers have a point if they said that despite the site being back online, who knows how many buyers gave up and quit trying to bid? How long do you extend that time frame? 5 minutes after the outage? 10? Again, more buyers are going to get ticked if arbitrary decisions are made here.

 

You would think that if a book sells way off GPA and is clearly anomalous (like the #31) then it would be a pretty easy case. If things are more iffy then Clink could allow the complaining sellers to relist or offer them a commission waiver if that would help bring prices a bit more inline. For the buyers there wouldn't be a lot they could do other than maybe offer free shipping on their next purchase or two.

 

I don't know that Clink can win by mandating that sellers relist, but if they gave sellers the option if they can make a case that their book was adversely affected by the outage then that would be fair. Like I said above, some sellers may be perfectly happy with a bird in the hand and wouldn't want to try their luck again, while others may be hopping mad or would rather keep their book for the price they got. Auctions are never a guarantee, and anything can happen month to month or even day to day on books. I doubt that every seller would want to negate their results from that time, but those that do would have the option if their books were clearly out of line on the low end with GPA or prior results on Clink or other sites.

[mysterio]

Of course I spout off and then Clink goes and posts this:

 

"ATTENTION BIDDERS: There was an enormous amount of simultaneous traffic on the server for the Spideys causing the server to go down for 5 minutes, between 8:24pm until 8:29pm (between Amazing Spider-Man #42 and Amazing Spider-Man #52). We are taking precautions so this does not reoccur. However, based on the presumption that there was probably a slowdown before the outage, and likely bidder disorientation afterwards, we have decided that the most fair thing in this situation to both bidders and sellers is to reopen Amazing Spider-Man lots from #2 thru #102 tomorrow and extend the bidding process for these items. These lots will reopen Wednesday afternoon at the current high bids and resume closing starting at 7:30PM EST. They will be followed by the regularly scheduled lots (starting with Daring Mystery), which will be pushed back accordingly."

 

Which frankly I'm not happy about because I won my #12 fair and square right before the outage. Guess I'll be back later to bid AGAIN. If you won (or lost) a Spidey last night make sure you set your clocks to re-snipe.

[sufunk]

Of course I spout off and then Clink goes and posts this:

 

"ATTENTION BIDDERS: There was an enormous amount of simultaneous traffic on the server for the Spideys causing the server to go down for 5 minutes, between 8:24pm until 8:29pm (between Amazing Spider-Man #42 and Amazing Spider-Man #52). We are taking precautions so this does not reoccur. However, based on the presumption that there was probably a slowdown before the outage, and likely bidder disorientation afterwards, we have decided that the most fair thing in this situation to both bidders and sellers is to reopen Amazing Spider-Man lots from #2 thru #102 tomorrow and extend the bidding process for these items. These lots will reopen Wednesday afternoon at the current high bids and resume closing starting at 7:30PM EST. They will be followed by the regularly scheduled lots (starting with Daring Mystery), which will be pushed back accordingly."

 

Which frankly I'm not happy about because I won my #12 fair and square right before the outage. Guess I'll be back later to bid AGAIN. If you won (or lost) a Spidey last night make sure you set your clocks to re-snipe.

 

Yeah, i think you are getting screwed on your #12! I was bidding on the #14 and things were definitely working fine at that point. Whoever it was outbid me fair and square and now i have a chance to go back and outbbid him. Unfortunately, after i missed that, i got a few books i wouldnt have if i got the 14.

 

Now i gotta decide if i'm gonna use the money i had earmarked for a few FF's and Xmen to rebid on the ASM 14

[mysterio]

Of course I spout off and then Clink goes and posts this:

 

"ATTENTION BIDDERS: There was an enormous amount of simultaneous traffic on the server for the Spideys causing the server to go down for 5 minutes, between 8:24pm until 8:29pm (between Amazing Spider-Man #42 and Amazing Spider-Man #52). We are taking precautions so this does not reoccur. However, based on the presumption that there was probably a slowdown before the outage, and likely bidder disorientation afterwards, we have decided that the most fair thing in this situation to both bidders and sellers is to reopen Amazing Spider-Man lots from #2 thru #102 tomorrow and extend the bidding process for these items. These lots will reopen Wednesday afternoon at the current high bids and resume closing starting at 7:30PM EST. They will be followed by the regularly scheduled lots (starting with Daring Mystery), which will be pushed back accordingly."

 

Which frankly I'm not happy about because I won my #12 fair and square right before the outage. Guess I'll be back later to bid AGAIN. If you won (or lost) a Spidey last night make sure you set your clocks to re-snipe.

 

Yeah, i think you are getting screwed on your #12! I was bidding on the #14 and things were definitely working fine at that point. Whoever it was outbid me fair and square and now i have a chance to go back and outbbid him. Unfortunately, after i missed that, i got a few books i wouldnt have if i got the 14.

 

Now i gotta decide if i'm gonna use the money i had earmarked for a few FF's and Xmen to rebid on the ASM 14

 

Fortunately for me I was going hard after the #12 and had no plans to buy other books in the auction, but I can definitely see your dilemma. Being a Spidey guy like I am, I would advise you to go back after the #14 if it is within your reach. For books in that pre-outage zip code I doubt that the prices will move much because everyone that wanted to get in on the bidding did. However, you may have that guy who had to work or whatever that couldn't bid yesterday but can today. You'll also have bitter underbidders who will jack a few prices up because they get a new lease on life with that auction. I guess we'll see. There are likely to be a few unhappy folks either way.

[cheetah]

Yeah, CLink is going to have unhappy people regardless of what they do.

 

Primary to me is that they learn what caused the problem and update their servers to handle it. They've been overdue for a software overhaul for years.

[sufunk]

It definitely is a bad situation. People like you that went to bed last night with a book in their account may go to bed without that book tonight. I would be VERY upset if i had won the 14 and had to rebid it tonight.

[1koko]

I "won" the 9.4 ASM #6, #10, #14 and #15 last night.

 

If I get outbid I'll have more money instead to buy FFs.