Detective #38 - 1st Robin - thoughts?

[sacentaur]

I can only speak for myself, and I am not interested in Tec 38, althought you are right, it is a key ( major key is debatable...not on the same shelf as Action 1, Tec 27, All American 16, Adventure 40, More Fun 52, etc etc ).

 

 

In my expert opinion, Detective #38 is a more significant key than More Fun #52, Adventure #40 and All-American #16.

 

S

 

Steve;

 

You might be able to convince me that 'Tec #38 is more "significant" than More Fun #52 or Adventure #40, but definitely not when it comes to the case of All-American #16.

 

Thank you, lou - I'm glad someone else said it besides me.

 

STEVE

[metropoliscomics]

I can only speak for myself, and I am not interested in Tec 38, althought you are right, it is a key ( major key is debatable...not on the same shelf as Action 1, Tec 27, All American 16, Adventure 40, More Fun 52, etc etc ).

 

 

In my expert opinion, Detective #38 is a more significant key than More Fun #52, Adventure #40 and All-American #16.

 

S

 

Steve;

 

You might be able to convince me that 'Tec #38 is more "significant" than More Fun #52 or Adventure #40, but definitely not when it comes to the case of All-American #16.

 

I say that simply because Robin is a far more important character than the G.A. Green Lantern.

 

S

[showcase4]

 

Steve;

 

You might be able to convince me that 'Tec #38 is more "significant" than More Fun #52 or Adventure #40, but definitely not when it comes to the case of All-American #16.

 

I say that simply because Robin is a far more important character than the G.A. Green Lantern.

 

S

 

Robin more important than the GA Green Lantern?

Please explain Stephen....you are one of the smartest guys in the industry, and I just don't see it.....help me see

[CentaurMan]

Oh please, show ANYONE in America a picture of Robin from Detective #38 and a picture of Green Lantern from All-American #16 and see who they think is the more important character.

 

There's NO WAY A-A #16 is more important, and that's coming from a guy who owns two copies of the book (and no 'Tec #38's). From a popular culture standpoint (the same standpoint that drives enormous Action #1 prices), the books don't even belong in the same conversation.

 

That doesn't mean we as collectors might not think a A-A is cooler, but no way is it as important.

[showcase4]

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[showcase4]

Oh please, show ANYONE in America a picture of Robin from Detective #38 and a picture of Green Lantern from All-American #16 and see who they think is the more important character.

 

There's NO WAY A-A #16 is more important, and that's coming from a guy who owns two copies of the book (and no 'Tec #38's). From a popular culture standpoint (the same standpoint that drives enormous Action #1 prices), the books don't even belong in the same conversation.

 

That doesn't mean we as collectors might not think a A-A is cooler, but no way is it as important.

 

 

Robin is a side-kick.....the Green Lantern is the star of his own show

,,,and I'm speaking strictly as a collector,,,the American public barely knows who the President is

Robin over the Green Lantern to a hardcore GA collector is a joke

[bluechip]

Oh please, show ANYONE in America a picture of Robin from Detective #38 and a picture of Green Lantern from All-American #16 and see who they think is the more important character.

 

There's NO WAY A-A #16 is more important, and that's coming from a guy who owns two copies of the book (and no 'Tec #38's). From a popular culture standpoint (the same standpoint that drives enormous Action #1 prices), the books don't even belong in the same conversation.

 

That doesn't mean we as collectors might not think a A-A is cooler, but no way is it as important.

 

Robin is a side-kick.....the Green Lantern is the star of his own show

 

Robin is the sidekick in a world renowned show. The green lantern is the star of a regional theater.

 

Compariatively speaking, that is.

 

At least until GL gets more recog factor.

[CentaurMan]

Like I said, the current batch of comic collectors will happily decide A-A 16 is a cooler book. But speaking to the broad concern about the next few generations of non-comic readers and their impact on the long-term viability of comics as collectibles, then you've got to recognize which characters have entered mainstream popular culture and which ones are cul-de-sacs. Robin is clearly a mainstream character. And the Golden Age Green Lantern is clearly a cul-de-sac. As such, Robin-related collectibles are more likely to sustain their value over a multi-decade time frame than are GA GL collectibles.

[showcase4]

 

Robin is the sidekick in a world renowned show. The green lantern is the star of a regional theater.

 

Until GL gets more recog factor that's how it is

 

That's a bunch of bunk...and All American 16 is one of the greatest GA comics out there....it would take it 10,000 times faster than a Tec 38, and I'm a Tec collector. Again, I don't care what future generations think with my comments....I am talkin' here and now, collector to collector...not what a school kid will think in 2022

[CentaurMan]

Can someone who doesn't also believe Obidiah Oldbuck is an important character chime on this one? We need more of a quorum on the anti-Robin side.

 

[showcase4]

Can someone who doesn't also believe Obidiah Oldbuck is an important character chime on this one? We need more of a quorum on the anti-Robin side.

 

 

OO is not an important character...it's an important book

[sacentaur]

Anna Nicole Smith is far more recognizable to mainstream America than Condoleezza Rice, therefore she is more important.

 

STEVE

[Sid]

Mainstream vs Straight to VHS

[CentaurMan]

Can someone who doesn't also believe Obidiah Oldbuck is an important character chime on this one? We need more of a quorum on the anti-Robin side.

 

 

OO is not an important character...it's an important book

 

Fair enough. All-American #16 is an important book as well. But Robin is a much more important character to American culture than is Green Lantern. Hell, I'd make the case that Aquaman is a more important character to American culture than is Green Lantern, and if he had been featured on the cover of More Fun #73 then that GA key might be more important, culturally, than A-A #16.

 

That doesn't make those books cooler to hard-core comic collectors like ourselves. But it makes them more important to 99% of Americans. And we're in total denial if we ignore that. That's worth a lot.

 

This is why sale prices of Action #1 and Detective #27 have been diverging away from Marvel #1. Rank these characters in order of their impact on popular culture: Superman, Batman, and Human Torch. Now rank Robin and the golden age Green Lantern on that same scale. I think Robin is clearly higher than the Human Torch, forget GL.

[showcase4]

But Robin is a much more important character to American culture than is Green Lantern.

agreed

[CentaurMan]

But Robin is a much more important character to American culture than is Green Lantern.

agreed

 

And I agree with you that I'd take an A-A #16 over a 'Tec #38 without thinking twice. I'm not sure if it's a wise move looking 30 years down the road, but the comic geek in me can't be denied.

[buttock]

Can someone who doesn't also believe Obidiah Oldbuck is an important character chime on this one? We need more of a quorum on the anti-Robin side.

 

 

Wha....?!?! You don't think OO is the apex of comic book history?

[Detroit MIke]

Considering the context and the target audience, I think the Boy Wonder idea was alright. It's the legions of copy-cats that start to become annoying... although I do enjoy collecting the Young Allies books. Too bad Whitewash Jones couldn't have been a Teen Titan. I still want a Tec 38, but there are a lot of books in front of it.

[batman_fan]

I love AA16, but Det 38 is by far more significant. Also, Det 38 is common, but it is actually very uncommon if you are looking for a copy without the printing defect.

[rjpb]

Can someone who doesn't also believe Obidiah Oldbuck is an important character chime on this one? We need more of a quorum on the anti-Robin side.

 

 

When the Obadiah Oldbuck movie comes out you'll be whistling a different tune.