BangZoom Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 What can you tell us about The Cartoon Crimes? What was the story's setting? Was it a sure-fire winner of a story? I would settle for it to be interesting ... I have several pulps with Bonnett stories but I picked the Sure-Fire to post because I liked the fact that it contained "The Cartoon Crimes." Unfortunately, sad to say, after skimming the story...it doesn't look very appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. Thanks BH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. It makes me want to smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock Originally Posted By: The_Black_Hand This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. It makes me want to smoke. where is that picture of Homer Simpson lighting his cigarette with a burning Action #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. It makes me want to smoke. I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciorac Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: The_Black_Hand I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 awesome DC letter bz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. Get ready for an inspirational PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Unfortunately, sad to say, after skimming the story...it doesn't look very appealing. That is some purple prose there! Gold-flecked eyes ... now where else did I hear about those And "the piquancy of her upturned nose" Priceless. If he continues with this kind of descriptions throughout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't own it. It's one of the documents entered into evidence in the Joanne Siegel v. Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc copyright trial. Link For additional correspondence between Jerry Siegel and DC Comics, check the link I posted with the letter. It's fascinating reading. Link I suggest everyone take a few minutes an dread the linked documents. Seems they were just filed on 8/5/08. There are many many letters from Lebowitz and Whiney Ellsworth castigating Siegel for bad stories, bad artwork, bad overseeing of talent, lack of cooperation, lack or seriousness, lack of gratitude(!) ... basically, if these were entered by DC, seemingly an effort o set teh stage for DC replacing them after years of generosity. It also includes annual income totals by Siegel/Shuster for 1038 - 1947. Are you ready? $401K. But as you read the little details about their payments and shares in Superman's income, you have to wonder how much DC took in! All in all, DC talks like a frustrated parent, putting up with these unprofessional kids. Certainly, there is some truth to this. But, if they were so bad, perhaps DC should have made good on their threats to replace them. But they apparently knew there was noone to take over until much later in the 40s. Anyway, its a big complicated enchilada. But fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock Originally Posted By: The_Black_Hand This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. It makes me want to smoke. I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. Jack asked if I had a story with Lois smoking. I didn't find anything other than her look alike, Ultra, jumping into a volcano. Heavy smokers in the series were Perry White and almost any gangster. Other heavy smokers were Jiggs and Albert the Alligator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock Originally Posted By: The_Black_Hand This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more. It makes me want to smoke. I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. When Albert's friends try to convince him to stop smoking, they get Pogo to dress up as a hot babe from Baton Rouge. It doesn't exactly work since he wasn't as dumb as they thought. Here is the edited version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (TBH)This thread never ceases to amaze me...it's fun and informative and it leaves me wanting more.(Richard the smoker) It makes me want to smoke.(TBH)I know that your just crying out for another one of my quit smoking lectues. (BB-GUN)When Albert's friends try to convince him to stop smoking, they get Pogo to dress up as a hot babe from Baton Rouge. It doesn't exactly work since he wasn't as dumb as they thought. Here is the edited version... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Here's a link to the 72 page judge's order in the recently decided Joanne Siegel v. Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc copyright trial. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 BZ, still taking pulp requests? Have any of Hershey's Zoom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 No Zoom. I had to Google it just to see what it looked like... Here'a a Tailspin Tommy instead. V1#1 (October 1936) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selegue Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 ...(BB-GUN)When Albert's friends try to convince him to stop smoking, they get Pogo to dress up as a hot babe from Baton Rouge. It doesn't exactly work since he wasn't as dumb as they thought. Here is the edited version... Great stuff! Which issue is this from? I have them all but, sad to say, haven't read them all.Edited? Did you leave out (a) page(s) between the first and second? Kelly's storytelling is so good that it works anyway. Very early versions of the characters -- they became much sleeker later. Churchy almost reminds me of Touché Turtle with that big ol' beak. Kelly's swampland buddies cross-dressed more often than Jimmy Olsen!Thanks,Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Jack, The anti-smoking story was from Animal 22 that was recently made available to me as scans by someone else. It seemed related to the two smoking comments that appeared on the thread. I think TBH fixed the dialogue from the thread so that the quotes made more since. I skipped 4 or 5 pages from the middle of the story. Pogo wouldn't play a trick on Albert like that without a reason (most of the story was about how they convinced him to wear the dress and not stealing the cigars) but I just kept the relevant to the thread portion. All of those stories are pretty good so pick some up if you get a chance. There is also a terrific fish story in one of the later issues of Animal comics. I also have many of the Pogo issues including the giant. My best recollections of Kelly were from election time and the sixties. His LBJ character was hilarious. I think Overstreet mentions that the stories in Animal are by Kelly but art is by Dan Noonan. I didn't check the GCD to see if this is correct. There is another story in Animal 9 where Albert smokes a window shade. Refined taste. bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 I think it's interesting how the look of DC's covers evolved in the 1930's. Originally they mimicked the look of slapstick comic strips in the newspaper. A few years later they resembled pulp covers. Top-Notch Magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...