Timely Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 Listed below is a list of all the Timely and Atlas Superhero comics from 1939 to 1956. Motion Picture Funnies Weekly #1 is not listed because it was published independantly, but it should be considered an honorary Timely. No Timely magazines are listed either, strictly comic books. All Select Comics #1-11. All Winners Comics #1-19, 21, 2/1. Amazing Comics #1. Amazing Mysteries #32. Astonishing Comics #3-6. Blonde Phantom #12-22. Captain America #1-78, annual #1. Comedy Comics #9-11. Complete Comics #2. Daring (Mystery) Comics #1-12. Human Torch #(1)2-38. Joker Comics #1. Kid Komics #1-10. Marvel Boy #1 & 2. Marvel Mystery Comics #1-92, annual #1. Marvel Tales #97. Men's Adventures #27 & 28. Miss America Comics #1. Miss Fury #1-8. Mystic Comics #1-10 vol2 #1-4. Namora #1-3. Red Raven Comics #1 Sub-mariner Comics #1-42. Sun Girl #1-3. Tough Kid Squad #1. USA #1-17. Venus #1-19. Witness #1. Young Allies #1-20. Young Men #24-28. That is a total of only 426 Timely and Atlas books to complete an entire collection. So why have so few done it? Even Steve Geppi did not have a complete collection when he sold his collection last year in Heritage, and he had been collecting Timely's for years. Could Timely's actually be scarce??? By my best guess, they are about 1 to 40 as scarce as DC, meaning for every 40 DC Golden Age books that are discovered, only 1 Timely is found. I hope this list has been helpful. Timely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted September 6, 2003 Share Posted September 6, 2003 Great info. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbanner Posted September 7, 2003 Share Posted September 7, 2003 Wow, that is good stuff, thanks! I guess the annuals are the toughest books to find? I've only known one collector who claimed to have a set, and although I never saw it and am somewhat skeptical, he did have lots of good books. I've managed to pick up around 40-50 by focusing on '43-45 WWII Schomburg covers (like everyone else no doubt!). Anyhow, before ebay I would be lucky to get one or two a year, and things didn't get much better at first on ebay, although over the last 1-2 years there do seem to be more. Nothing like the plethora of DC's however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted September 7, 2003 Share Posted September 7, 2003 Not sure about the 1:40 ratio but I will concur that the ratio of Timely to GA DCs is at least 1: 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted September 7, 2003 Share Posted September 7, 2003 Finally! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted October 8, 2003 Author Share Posted October 8, 2003 My Timely Super-hero list was shorted, I forgot to list Blackstone the Magician #2-4 with the Blonde Phantom. opps..I did it again... Timely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Does that mean you have three more books on your want list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted October 8, 2003 Author Share Posted October 8, 2003 Yeah...just what I needed, more books to get.... Timely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwoogieman Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Timely, Do you know if Subbie, Boy Champion of the Sea, ever actually appeared with Sub-Mariner? The only two appearances I can find are in Kid Komics #'s 1 & 2, and they're both solo stories. Anywhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted October 8, 2003 Author Share Posted October 8, 2003 Hi Woo, I do not know of any other appearances by Subbie either with Sub-mariner or in solo action. It does seem strange that Subbie was not at least made Sub-mariner's side kick in "All Winners Comics" since Bucky and Toro were in those stories and also featured on many of the covers! Here is my copy of Kid Komics #1. CGC 9.0 copy! Timely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Hey Timely, out of curiousity, why do the majority of your scans have punchholes next to them? Have your copies been printed and you're scanning those, or? I'm confused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwoogieman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I just sold my KK2 this week, it's going on vacation overseas http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2195707667&indexURL=2&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 For the past 12 years I've always xeroxed the covers of the books I've owned. I am scanning those xeroxes that are in my folder for this venue. Timely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecfanman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Listed below is a list of all the Timely and Atlas Superhero comics from 1939 to 1956. Motion Picture Funnies Weekly #1 is not listed because it was published independantly, but it should be considered an honorary Timely. No Timely magazines are listed either, strictly comic books. All Select Comics #1-11. All Winners Comics #1-19, 21, 2/1. Amazing Comics #1. Amazing Mysteries #32. Astonishing Comics #3-6. Blonde Phantom #12-22. Captain America #1-78, annual #1. Comedy Comics #9-11. Complete Comics #2. Daring (Mystery) Comics #1-12. Human Torch #(1)2-38. Joker Comics #1. Kid Komics #1-10. Marvel Boy #1 & 2. Marvel Mystery Comics #1-92, annual #1. Marvel Tales #97. Men's Adventures #27 & 28. Miss America Comics #1. Miss Fury #1-8. Mystic Comics #1-10 vol2 #1-4. Namora #1-3. Red Raven Comics #1 Sub-mariner Comics #1-42. Sun Girl #1-3. Tough Kid Squad #1. USA #1-17. Venus #1-19. Witness #1. Young Allies #1-20. Young Men #24-28. That is a total of only 426 Timely and Atlas books to complete an entire collection. So why have so few done it? Even Steve Geppi did not have a complete collection when he sold his collection last year in Heritage, and he had been collecting Timely's for years. Could Timely's actually be scarce??? By my best guess, they are about 1 to 40 as scarce as DC, meaning for every 40 DC Golden Age books that are discovered, only 1 Timely is found. I hope this list has been helpful. Timely Kind of intrigued at your list, so here are some comments. 1) I don't know if I would include Joker #1 on the list. It has a story with a character called Stuporman, but it basically a humor story. Now if humor is a valid superhero category, then I would vote for Powerhouse Pepper as a Timely superhero. But then that would add a bunch more books to your want list and that would mean I would have more competition for those Basil Wolverton gems I need. 2) Captain America #75 isn't a superhero comic. His name is on the cover, but if I remember correct, his likeness isn't anywhere in the book. This is an early Timely/Atlas horror comic worth collecting on it's own merits. I do agree that it should be on any completist Timely collector's list as who wants a 1 issue gap in the run. 3) Venus. Ahhhh, lovely Venus (especially when drawn by Bill Everett). Not really a superhero book. It crossed genre from love to fantasy to horror. I guess you can leave her on the list. She sure looked good in a costume. 4) The Witness. Kind of falls in that same category as Venus, but doesn't look nearly as good in a dress. 5) The two Canadian Timely annuals. I can understand why they are on the list, even though they are Canadian in origin. But, if you include them, shouldn't you include Collosal Comics #5 that is shown in Gerber (for the sake of completeness). It uses the cover of Namora #1. I am guessing that the contents of Namora #1 are on the inside. It has a cover price of 25 cents, so it may actually contain the contents of two comics. Who knows what the other might be? Could just be a rebinding of two unsold issues, but I tend to doubt it. (See the recent post I made about the Canadian Phantom Lady #13 I have that seems to be related to this comic.) Has anybody seen this comic? 6) With respect to "foreign" Timely's, are you familiar with O Global Mensal Juvenil? It is a Brazilian comic that came out during World War II. I have an issue from August 1944 with a Human Torch cover. Maybe I should post a discussion of it as a seperate thread. I recall that there was an article about these comics a while back in Comic Book Marketplace. Anyone remember the CBM issue number? These were really unusual comics. Well, enough. Good luck on finding all the Timely's you are looking for. They've always been hard to find. ECFANMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 I would not consider Collosus #5 a Timely. It was not published by Timely or distributed in the USA. It's not listed in Overstreet and who knows what's underneath that cover!?!? I feel the rest on your list should be in every complete Timely collection. The CA #75 may not have Cap in it, but it's his book, his title. I know nothing about the Brazilian book you mentioned. There is also a PULP issue of Marvel Science that has a 4(?) page Human Torch story that should be considered, but then again it's a pulp and not a comic... Timely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecfanman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 The November 1940 Marvel Stories pulp has a 1 page Human Torch strip (black and white) which is basically an ad for Marvel Comics. (Yes they call it Marvel Comics, not Marvel Mystery Comics.) That issue also has a number of Kirby drawings that should put it on a Timely collector's list. I thought the Timely annuals were Canadian? Did Timely actually publish and distribute them in the US? ECFANMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 The Marvel Mystery b/w annual (1944) was published in the USA but seems to have been distributed only in Canada. Marvel Stories Vol. 2 #2 pulp had a full pg. Human Torch story. Every other illustration in the pulp was drawn by Simon/Kirby Nov. 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metarog Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 What about Miss America Magazine 2-5? These included at least 1 Miss America story each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 Also - Cap 75 has no Captain America in it - just a notation! Man I want that book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecfanman Posted October 9, 2003 Share Posted October 9, 2003 I have a Cap #75. At least most of it. I bought a big box of 1950's stuff (cheap). Most of it was loose covers AND loose interior pages. With a bit of effort I was able to piece together 50-100 complete pre-code horror comics and a bunch of coverless/incomplete books. Never was able to match up a back cover for the Cap 75, though, so I printed out a scaled up scan from one of the Heritage auctions. It isn't pretty, but it still reads well. The GCD database was extremely helpful in piecing together books, although now, the "search by story title" feature isn't enabled. I still have a six inch stack of unidentifed "parts". I say, take pre-code any way you can get it. ECFANMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
