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if you have someThor/JIM I will be interested , early Xmen too .

On 7/30/2022 at 6:15 PM, ft88 said:

Journey Into Mystery 98 VG/F $90

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On 7/31/2022 at 2:31 AM, ft88 said:

Avengers 7 VG/F $190

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On 7/30/2022 at 6:14 PM, ft88 said:

Journey Into Mystery 91 Good- $50

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On 7/31/2022 at 3:04 AM, SOLAR BOY said:

Fantastic Four Annual #5--Solid 6.5 Copy---Asking $75

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On 7/22/2022 at 2:47 AM, speedcake said:

X-Men #11  VG/FN  $225

 

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i will take it (PM you about shipping ) 

On 6/4/2022 at 7:16 AM, ft88 said:

X-men 7 VG+ $290

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On 6/4/2022 at 7:17 AM, ft88 said:

X-men 8 Fine+ $390

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Thanks for the feedback .

just got those pictures need an idea of grade .

On 10/27/2021 at 2:25 PM, Grottu said:

The only thing that even looks potentially suspicious to me is the stress marks around the staples, though it’s hardly definitive and, assuming someone did remove and reinsert them, it was done pretty darn well. Very weird.

On 10/27/2021 at 4:59 PM, James J Johnson said:

Submit it. Aside from the apparent trim on the right edge, the entire vibe of the book is off, including the one chronologically atypical staple. A pre-superhero Marvel collector for decades, I've seen quite a few of these, and this one stands out to me as having unique characteristics that I have not seen before (print-wise). Also, the unusual wear on the bottom edge and spine corner looks more intentional than incidental or accidental. I'd send this in. All TTA 13s are worthwhile submissions anyway for whatever reason, and if this pulls even as little as a 4.5/5.0 blue or purple label, you'll be glad you did. 

I used a traditional eco-friendly pressing method that consisted of stacking the books vertically in box  for a decade  ,they all looks clean a sharp thanks to mother earth's gravity  (if you beleve such thing) that's why that book looks weird ?

Like I said before I brought that books in the early 2000 paid less than a hundred bucks for it for sure ,I can't see why someone spend so much time to do a such a stupid thing mixing interior and faking wears but I maybe underestimate people.

On 10/27/2021 at 4:04 AM, The Lions Den said:

Very interesting...  

On books like this, I like to try and match up the cover with the interior. For example, are there any stains on the cover that extend into the interior? Do they match up perfectly? How about creasing or other wear? Does the wear on the cover look natural or has it been manipulated to look older? 

Then I ask myself why someone would go through all the trouble to match a valuable cover with a not so valuable interior. It doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?  

if it was done after production it was already a long time ago there is some wear on the bottom that are present on the cover and the interior plus everything looks right ,the staples no extra holes but I am no expert that why I am here .

I brought the book years ago (early 2000) so it wasn't that valuable so maybe some guy with far too much time on his hands could have done it now  it's a different value and to speak the truth that 's why I am curious about it .

On 10/27/2021 at 4:09 AM, grendelbo said:

Well if this could happen...

Ok I guess I am not that crazy to think it could be a production mistake ,this book is on different level how many books did they make before noticing it ? and is there the mirror Two in One with the TeenTitans inside  ? that's a new collection niche for those who have everything and are bored .

Looks like I post this in the wrong forum so here it is again ( I couldn't find how to move a topic from a forum ).

Here is something for the expert .

I brought on ebay in the early 2000 a tales of astonish 13  when I got it I realized something was wrong the book inside was in fact the tales of suspense 12,  I live in Japan so the cost to sending back the book and all the drama associated to get something in exchange was more than the value of that book (at the time)  plus it displayed great and I could get one in the future (of course never did) I stopped to collect  comics around 2007 after the big earthquake in 2011 I moved all my comics in a more safe place  and kind of forgot about them until this summer when I decided  to check them  back (thanks to the lockdown) and buy the few stuff I missed I found that the movies made everything expensive good surprises and bad for the ones I didn't  buy.

I was about to feeling rich when I remember the "problem" ... still after a closer inspection (I think it was trimmed to look better)  I couldn't find  that the cover didn't fit with the comics inside and maybe it was a mistake from the start ?, wrong cover mistake made  at the printer?  since the tales of suspense 12 and Tales of astonish 13 were published the same month so probably printed at the same time ?

I can't find a reason to put the cover on that particular comics and do so much a good job to align the staples  and staples holes for the cover and the comics  seems a bit overkill and a lot of work I probably paid less than a hundred bucks for it  I couldn't trace back the seller but from my ebay feedback .

I really curious to find out it was an elaborate scam  or a real mistake and if it's a real thing ,it is something I should send to CGC ? or just display it raw.

On 10/26/2021 at 6:10 PM, zzutak said:

In the old days, covers for several different titles were printed on a single sheet.  Then, the individual covers were separated and stapled to the corresponding interiors.  Since TOS #12 and TTA #13 were printed at the same time, it's entirely possible this is a simple manufacturing error.  I don't have an image for these specific titles, but here are a couple of shots that show what I'm talking about. 

I see why I couldn't take Zzutak name when I joined the site 

those sheets are nice ,it could explain the mixed up because I can't see why someone  will spend time to do that trick to sell a book on ebay ( I think paid less than a hundred bucks  that was my budget limit for those at the time )  I have a hard time to wrap my mind around such a cheap scam but so much well made .

On 10/27/2021 at 12:13 AM, grendelbo said:

CGC should be able to determine it.

I'm not sure if it does make sense but that's what CGC says.

well since you can't read or open the book I guess the cover is the most important part now ...  I stopped collecting before CGC became the standard so that logic is a bit weird to me.

On 10/26/2021 at 4:06 PM, grendelbo said:

Same wear appears on the cover and the interior pages at the bottom left corner. I would think the cover and pages have been together for a while. That could indicate a manufacturing error.

If it's legit (and you'd need a restoration expert), then CGC would call this a TTA 13, not TOS 12 - the cover would determine the copy's identify.

Oh yeah, 5.5/6.0.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the infos I didn't know the cover dertermine the identity ,I really through it was the opposite but it makes more sense since the comics are encapsulated.

So I should send it first to some restoration expert, CGC won't or can't tell if it's a production error if I send it directly to them they will just grade it ?.

Here is something for the expert .

I brought on ebay in the early 2000 a tales of astonish 13  when I got it I realized something was wrong the book inside was in fact the tales of suspense 12,  I live in Japan so the cost to sending back the book and all the drama associated to get something in exchange was more than the value of that book (at the time)  plus it displayed great and I could get one in the future (of course never did) I stopped to collect  comics around 2007 after the big earthquake in 2011 I moved all my comics in a more safe place  and kind of forgot about them until this summer when I decided  to check them  back (thanks to the lockdown) and buy the few stuff I missed I found that the movies made everything expensive good surprises and bad for the ones I didn't  buy.

I was about to feeling rich when I remember the "problem" ... still after a closer inspection (I think it was trimmed to look better)  I couldn't find  that the cover didn't fit with the comics inside and maybe it was a mistake from the start ?, wrong cover mistake made  at the printer?  since the tales of suspense 12 and Tales of astonish 13 were published the same month so probably printed at the same time ?

I can't find a reason to put the cover on that particular comics and do so much a good job to align the staples  and staples holes for the cover and the comics  seems a bit overkill and a lot of work I probably paid less than a hundred bucks for it  I couldn't trace back the seller but from my ebay feedback .

I really curious to find out it was an elaborate scam  or a real mistake and if it's a real thing ,it is something I should send to CGC ? or just display it raw.

Is CGC can grade foreign comics ?especially the french version of the Marvel titles .

I need some expertise on something I am not  quite sure how to handle , in the early 2000 ‘s I got scam on one particular book (?) I brought it because it was in a great condition ,it was cheap, I was happy to get it  then I received the book and the interior didn’t match the cover … not the same book Inside I contacted the seller, a lots of sorry ,I didn’t know  etc…  long story short I live in Japan so i decided not to send back the book because  it displayed well and I was thinking to get a new one of course that never happed and I kind of quit collecting comics to lost money on restoring a vintage car and producing toys …  fast foward to the present day thanks to the lock down and covid I decided to complete my comics collection, while making the new list of the stuff  I am missing I realized that the comics Inside the cover was published the same month so is it possible it was a mistake at the printer ? or it is a cosmic coincidence that the comics Inside was published at the same time … by the way the comics it’s tales to astonish 13 (cover) and Inside I have the tales of suspense 12 both published the same month .

Of course Groot at the time I got the comics if I recall well was not even  vaguely  the prototype of something so i didn’t care that much about buying a new copy, no hurry it’s not like the value will go up … anyway I am  still wondering if I got scam or if that book is a mistake  ? 

I wonder if CGC can find out if it 's a one time error ? if there is other stories like that or if I was just the victim of a pretty dumb scam