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Did you also buy into their CGC 9.8 graded copy of TMNT 1 at the time for something like $65K or thereabouts? That one there should have done alright if they held onto it for awhile or did they end up reselling it before the big spikeup to a quarter of million dollars on this same book? Yes, when I was reading the initial thread on this back in 2020, the concern which I had at the time was the lack of control over when and how the book was going to be resold back into the marketplace. So, are you saying any of the stupefying mind numbing prices that we see for rather common BA books are the ones that have been brought by these know nothing incompentent buyers from Rally and possibly some of the other fractional share companies? Almost makes me wonder if they were the ones who brought the Marvel Spotlight 5 for some $264K, and if so, then Heritage and Halperin must have these guys on speed dial when one of these big BA books comes up for sale.

I guess the same reason that Doug Schmell used for going with Heritage when it was time for him to dispose of his own personal collection. In other words, to maintain an air of independence and unbiasedness so that nobody can complain about a potential conflict of interest.

Yes, definitely another avenue for potential buyers and sellers to buy and/or sell, investment wise that is, their vintage collectible comic books. Hopefully, you got a chance to peruse the legal prospectus for this Batman 1 in order to know all of the in's and out's before putting your money in.

And DD168. Paying $13K for a book that shows up on eBay for $6500 is absolute insanity. And that's the problem with these types of comparison charts and other similar stats when they include outlier transactions, especially in this particular case here, when the outlier is the one and only transaction you are comparing it to.

Nah......................more likely he got an advanced peak at the cover for this book a few months earlier and simply came up with a far superior version of roughly the same thematic image:

Now, this is it in a nutshell as it clearly shows that it is not just a simple case of one size fits all. It's really much more dependent upon the specific time period that you are talking about and possibly even the publisher.

Well, didn't it start decades ago with Overstreet officially recognizing price variants in his guide and also pointing out the different logo variations for Newsstand and Direct, even though he stated that there were no differences in valuations for these variants at the time. I think most collectors knew even back then that the differences in valuations would eventually also spread to Direct versus Newsstand, especially with these much more recent common books that collectors would look for some reason to satisfy their OCD need to determine that one would be harder to find and hence more desirable and valuable. Needless to say, all of these current variant covers and reprint variations that they have in today's marketplace certainly made it obvious that collectors would also start to value Direct versus Newsstand based upon the perceived survivability rate for each version.

Took a look at this link to the startengine website and they clearly make Rally Road look like PHD material compared to this kindergarten outfit.

Clearly the case since this book here went for a piddly $32K and wasn't able to crack into the $40K's like the Transformers 1 and so many others last year: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%26pg%3D55%26x%3D38%26y%3D11%23Item_1546004&id=1546004&itemType=0#detail

Well, from all of their junk email message that I've been receiving every other day, it looks like the fastest way to get your books back is to send them through a private signing process as these books get sent to the front of the pressing and grading queue. No need to worry about Economy or Walkthrough using this method. Just pack up all my copies of GA books and and look for the cheapest no name creator to sign the books and you'll get them all back within a couple of monthswith one of those nice bright yellow labels, and all at a guaranteed price of only $50 for grading and an additional $20 for pressing. Hence, no longer any need to worry about some egregious uncapped 3% of current market value to get your book pressed and then another 3% to get them graded.

Not necessarily a good sign for collectors who might be thinking of potentially selling some of their books during this rather insane marketplace because we all know about the law of supply and demand. Especially once more books slowly snails their way out of the almost one-year wait to get through the CGC grading factory plus apparently another year on top of that if you want to squeeze it through their CCS pressing maximization machine first.

Well, with a total of 315 books in this particular auction alone, including some biggies like this AF 15 here, Bat 1, Suspense 3, etc., I certainly hope that old Mikey is residing in some exotic tax free haven like the Cayman's, Switzerland, Monaco, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Belize, or the likes where there is no capital gains taxes at all.

Congrats on the sale! I can only imagine what it feels like to sell a book for six figures...must be quite a rush. Well, it's always an exhilarating rush for a virgin the first time , but after awhile it just becomes the same old same old since I believe he's also got the Bat 1 in this auction that sold for more money and the Suspense 3 that's currently sitting at $211K with another day to go, along with the other 312 books he has in this auction as most of the GA books like the Bat's and Planet's are apparently his:

WTF indeed..............not a single bid in the last 3 minutes and I thought CL was the go to home for the last second snipers.

Ummmm...............Peter, have you started yet and are your affairs all in order with your will brought up-to-date as I had advised you to earlier: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%26x%3D32%26y%3D7%26pg%3D56%23Item_1545991&id=1545991&itemType=0#detail Not quite as silly as the Transformers 1 at a rather $44K as this one here is actually a very important and key DC book, but I do believe that $40,005 would qualify as hitting strong 5 figures.

Not the Allentown. IIRC, it came from an original owner find from the Northeast. I don't recall whether the other WWs were pedigrees. The WW 8 is definitely not the Allentown. Hard to tell from this distant shot here, but is that copy of Mystery Men 2 anywhere close to the other copies in terms of its condition? Also, as far as you know, any other early Fox beauties or any other nice books of significance from that original owner find in the Northeast? As for the Wonderworld 8, just glad to see that Overstreet eventually got around to breaking out that issue there on its own after initially only breaking out Wonderworld 7. Especially since Wonderworld 8 clearly deserves to be recognized as a classic cover in its own right.

Yes, no doubt that deep blood red background on a pristine copy like the Church or Allentown copy of Mystery Men 8 would just pop. Since you've had the distinct pleasure of seeing both copies in real life and the Church copy graded out as a CGC 9.4 WP copy, do you think the Allentown copy would also be right up there or closer to Payette's tougher raw grading at the time as being only a VF/NM copy?

Ahhhhh.............the all-time classic group photo that really can't be beat and which I really need to save somewhere on my computer here. Is that Mystery Men 2 robot cover also an Allentown copy of is it from another pedigree such as the Larson since I heard those were also really cherry nice? If it's the Allentown copy, I imagine it it should be pretty pristine since from the Master Allentown Collection List, Payette had graded the MM 2 as a NM/M condition copy. Especially since we all know how tough his grading generally tends to be in comparison to CGC's grading, as evident from the graded Allentown examples we have seen so far to date.

For a consignor, from a financial point of view, the only thing that matters is the bottom-line and what they can pocket after all of the fees and certainly not the headline grabbing top line that the auction houses loves to harp about all the time.

Although it might seem crazy to some, I don't think it's quite as crazy as the 2014 - 2016 time period before the tax laws were changed to discourage the rampant and highly inflationary flipping of houses. Now, that was a rather insane period of time where I remember a small but sedate nothing at all special house on the West side of the city being flipped four times during this short 2 year time period with the price going up from $3.2M before it settled in at a $7.6M price point. So, the OP with his purchase of the Allentown copy Cap 1 for $100B or even $100M would take the gold medal for craziness by a long shot.

If you are on good terms and keep in contact with the big boys in the hobby place back then, you can certainly benefit from that long held idiom that "one person's trash is another person's treasure".

For all of the Frazatta Famous Funnies aficionados and collectors who are still looking to fill some of the gaps in their Frazetta FF run without having to pay the nosebleed Heritage prices, as per my earlier post in the Famous Funnies thread, there's a small run from Famous Funnies 209 through 212 that's still sitting at a fraction of what similar graded copies sold for on Heritage just a few short months ago:

I thought the following early Bats in comparison were also a bit low on the low side: Batman 6, 7.0, OW/W, $5,317 Batman 7, 6.5, OW/W, $4,877 and Batman 8, 6.0, OW/W, $5,859

Received an email today from CL about their Feature Auction offerings tonight and noticed that their Frazetta Famous Funnies run from 209 through 212, with these two leading the way for now at $5,414 and $4,511 respectively, with the FF 211 being a Bethlehem pedigree copy to boot: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%23Item_1551508&id=1551508&itemType=0#detail https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%23Item_1551509&id=1551509&itemType=0#detail Still a long ways to go from the strong 5-figures and near 5-figures which Heritage were able to fetch recently for their Frazetta Famous Funnies, especially with respect to the CGC 9.0 graded copy FF 211 and CGC 8.0 graded copy of FF 212 which sold only a few short months ago for $19,800 and $19,200 respectively. Will certainly be interesting to see how close these CL Frazetta Famous Funnies offerings come to the Heritage price points, but I somehow don't think it'll be close since more of the deep pocketed frenzied GA eyeballs tends to focus more on the Heritage auction site, as opposed to the CC auction site.

Then again, it was finally nice to see a couple of the Neal Adams Avengers books finally get some loving, especially with the big giant-size classic Neal Adams cover to cover issue of Avengers 93 which at one time was the biggest go to BA Marvel book for collectors to chase down when both Hulk 181 and Spidey 129 were still nothing books at less than a dollar a pop. Most llikely a record price with a CGC 9.6 2nd highest graded copy jumping up from something in the $2,800 range in the last minute to finished up at $6,100. Similarly, the Neal Adams Avengers 94 second highest graded CGC 9.6 copy also jumped up from somewhere in the $800 range all the way up to $3,878 in the last minute of the auction. Clearly, CL is much more the home base for the CGC label chasers and the more readily accessible recent books (relative to the GA books) who loves to come in the dying seconds of an auction with their snipe bids.