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What country? If I remember correctly, I believe that Tim said there are no capital gains taxes in Hong Kong, in addition to some other countries like Singapore. So, when he sold that Uncle Scrooge book for $90K a few months ago along with a fw other books, I guess it was all tax free and he go and buy that Hermes bag for his better half, although I am sure she already has all of that stuff.

I wouldn't necessarily say so because deep pocketed bidders who are busy making money to fund their extravagant spending don't tend to bother wasting their time scouring through the millions of random listings on eBay on a daily basis to see if something just might suit their fancy. They would much rather simply go to a high end comic book auction website every couple of months that's been designed and laid out to make it fast and easy for potential bidders to scroll through their area of interest.

When your price is too high and it doesn't sell... raise it!!! Not necessarily the case as it sounds as though some of you haven't been keeping up with some of the recent auction results threads here. Seems that there's been some cases where books have not sold at the BIN price on an eBay auction offering, but when equivalent graded copies are auctioned off on the major auction platforms, they end up selling for multiples of the eBay BIN asking price.

its a whole thing. lots of round and round it goes, but I think guy buy games in bulk, guy starts game company, guy's company works with other companies like HA and cgc, cgc grades the games, ha sells the games, maybe ha people buy the games, everyone markets the sales, rinse repeat, rinse repeat, RECORD SETTING RINSE REPEAT or so I heard. Then combine with past shenanigans discussed on board by HA consignors (hey mikey, he likes it! Mikey likes it!) sorry I couldn't pass that up some of whom involve the same companies or possible players or not shenanigans but dealer-to-dealer-to-auction where first dealer buys it-to-dealer-to-dealer sales we get to an increased level of cynicism about the OA market. well, some do. Not me though. So, no real evidence or proof of any actual misdealings by Heritage and WATA with the whole Super Mario 64 video game auction result, and really just more of a supposition or possible conspiracy theory for now. I thought it would at least be based on some scenario such as this one-off completely out of the ballpark very high profile video game public auction result being followed up by other video game public auction million dollar sales and then this exact same Super Mario 64 video game then being sold off at a substantially lower price point (by say half a million) in a rather low profile private sales transaction a few short months later. Some kind of scenario like this would have at least given a bit more meat to the conspiracy theory being postulated here, but pretty much nada so far from what I am seeing here.

Definitely NOT Metro's book in the first place because this was the Promise Collection copy and as we all should well know by now, Heritage (in conjunction with CGC ) is the first to market with all of the books from this pedigree collection.

This is Metro after all that we are talking about in terms of their well known reputation for their willingness to take offers. I remember dealing with Fishler back in the day when he was operating on his own, and if I asked him for say $200 off the price of a book, he would always say absolutely no problem. Instead of taking $200 off his original price though, he would tack on another $200 on top of his original price. People that dealt with Fishler back then said he was always too serious with no sense of humour, but I always found that he just had a different dryer sense of humor which I didn't mind at all. I imagine the more likely scenario is that they might simply have thought that they had a ready buyer for this book in this condition, but the buyer backed out and Metro is just trying to recoup their money on the book now. The other possibility is that the potential buyer had a change of heart, but couldn't back out of the deal with Metro, but Metro was willing to provide a way out for them in the form of a consignment to sell the book on their behalf.

On what basis or proof is there that the Super Mario graded video game auction result was "not real" or is this just a conspiracy theory here?

Considering the insane run up with the AF 15s recently, I wonder if that's what may be happening here? Well, with this just completed Heritage Auction here, I certainly wouldn't be too concerned with the AF 15's, as opposed to the totally unexpected and unforeseen game changer that just took place in the OA market with the Zeck Venom page selling for an unheard of price of $3.36M, which a couple of boardies did find to be rather suspiciously high: If that's the case, it certainly did its intended job as the OA boards are just abuzzing with how much this sale was a game changing moment for the OA market and how their values have now just rocketed right out of this world, along with lots of chatter about which other pages are now clearly worth more than this record setting $3.36M.

Well, looks like the answer to your question is right here based upon this past weekend's Heritage Auction result: https://comics.ha.com/itm/magazines/adventure/savage-tales-1-marvel-1971-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/a/7266-97357.s?type=bidnotice-tracked-endofauction Although it looks like a relatively strong price at $4,800 with the BP juice, it's still only a small fraction of the $37,200 where the CGC 9.8 graded copy finished up at back in November and it's also close to $1K less than what an equivalent graded CGC 9.6 had sold for back in August at $5,760.

$10,500 with the juice. Basically double current GPA for the signature. While I love all the FF FF covers it won’t be me. Expand $19,800 with the juice. Since I am too lazy to type out my response here, I'll simply repost something which I had posted in another thread earlier today:

Yes, but these are much more recent books with a much larger pool of buyers out there including speculators who love to flip these books as you always tend to see multiple copies available in every single auction. Not so much for the GA books like Batman 49 which you pretty much don't see more than a handful come to market every year, let alone 16 copies from just one auction house in a short 2-year time period.

Not being a OA collector or even having much interest in them, I would definitely not be the best person to ask about this. All I know is that the HOS 92 cover was indeed a thing of beauty with just the artwork itself and no words or logos to detract from the image. Being much more of a GA type of collector though, I was floored by the OA cover for 'Tec 28, but probably because I have always loved that cover and also certainly surprised to see such an early classic GA cover just surviving to this day.

Well, from reading your previous post along with the one from @Timely It sounds as though this Dave C. has not only been there for the longest while, but is also considered by both of you as one of the best graders in the business. Sounds to me like he should at least be qualified enough to be given a shot at grading high value vintage books, especially since I feel that consistency is one of the most important attributes to have when it comes to grading.

I was a little surprised at the hammer on this one. From my personal point of view, far too many copies of this book in far too short of a time. Heck, without even taking a look at CL or the CC archives, it looks like Heritage on its own has auctioned off a whopping total of 16 copies of this book within just the past 2 years. Eventually, the number of buyers that's willing to continue to bid top dollars for this book is going to keep dwindling down over such a short time period.

Although I thought this copy here might have had a chance at hitting the $40K price point, at least it gave it a good shot coming in at $38,400. Definitely fared a lot better than the so-called Eldon pedigree CGC 7.0 graded copy which manged to hit only $52,800 back in 2020 or less than 4X condition guide, whereas this non-ped copy here at least managed to just squeaked by north of 6X condition guide. I am always of the mind set that comic book valuations tend to move in cycles, and as such, the first GA books out of the gate were the pre-Robin 'Tec books about 5 years ago which was then followed closely behind by the early Supes cover Action's like Action 13, early Archie's like Jackpot 4 and even the classic cover Archie 50, and also the early Cap's like All-Select 1 and Cap 3. With the big head start and the rather blistering pace that those "first out of the gate" GA books took a few years ago, the acceleration for all of these early risers seem to slowed down during the past couple of years since the start of Covid as other sectors within the GA marketplace started to do their big catchup. If you look at Cap 3 for example, for awhile there (similar to Action 13), even mid-grade restored copies were selling for multiples of condition guide and into the $20K price range. So, hopefully this most recent sale at $38,400 is signalling that Cap 3 is back on track and about to pick up their pace again, as compared to the past 2 years.

Like the authentic Cerebus 1, maybe the counterfeit copy is even tougher to find in grade than that over hyped and much ballyhooed Albedo 2?

Totally aware of the difference in the UPC boxes and pricing boxes between the Direct and Newsstand copies. The question which I am unsure about is wasn't the time period of the early 80's just when the Direct distribution system was starting out and not as well developed and in place as later on in the decade. As a result, weren't some of the LCS's, depending upon your region, still receiving Newsstand copies or some combination of both in their shipment of comics? Need to check, but I am quite sure that I do have some Newsstand copies of this DD 168 in my collection, even though I clearly remember cherry picking and buying every single one of my copies from a few of the LCS's in my area at the time. BTW: Based upon this rather "jump the shark" latest Heritage result on the DD 168 if it holds up, it looks like you are going to make good bank on your copies here.

Was there a difference back then in the early 80's as I believe all of my copies have the same UPC barcode in that box?

Yes, Dean is subtly indicating he's been a VIP guest at Metro's offices. Nah.............just indicating that I am not really that much of a BA guy, especially in comparison to those classic pre-Batman 'Tec style covers done by Flessel and Guardineer at the time. As for the Metro offices in the crime infested heart of NYC, absolutely nothing but a derelict shack in comparison to my visit to the plush and palatial Hui mansion in the elegant and upscale neighboring HK seaside village district of Stanley where all of the wealthy ex-pats reside alongside their private collections of vintage collectible comic books and OA.

Metro own both OA to 28 and 30 iirc Well, definitely pretty tough to miss the outstanding OA cover for 'Tec 28 as it's front and center when you walk past their front door. I believe they did have the OA cover for 'Tec 30, but not as much of a standout or memorable for me personally as that is probably one of my least favorite covers out of the short pre-Robin 'Tec run.

Well, if buyers are paying so much more for a signature, just imagine how much this signature laden book will be able to fetch later today: https://comics.ha.com/itm/bronze-age-1970-1979-/the-incredible-hulk-181-signature-series-stan-lee-and-others-marvel-1974-cgc-vf-85-off-white-pages/a/122203-15490.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

That has never stopped any western film from being watched in China. You better be careful here as HK is now officially part of China which means Xi can come in on a whim and confiscate your entire vintage collectible comic book collection.

I guess only time will tell in the form of future upcoming auctions since both the Famous Funnies 212 and 215 which sold for $19,200 and $11,400 respectively didn't have his signature on either of them, but will definitely be fun to watch.

Well, from what I heard, I believe the Disney MCU movies are now pretty much banned from the Chinese market.

Agreed, I think H181 cover crushes anything else known to exist. The question in my mind is what would the ASM 252 or SW8 covers go for ? Well, how about the OA covers for both Spidey 129 and Wrightson's classic HOS 92 because they both sure looked nice when I saw them a couple of years ago?