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This piece of OA cover artwork is definitely so much better and sold for less than a tenth of what that Zeck Venom page sold for: https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/covers/ed-hannigan-and-klaus-janson-gi-joe-a-real-american-hero-21-cover-snake-eyes-original-art-marvel-/a/7266-91010.s Nevertheless, still sold for a very strong price at $312K and when I saw it on the weekend, the first person I thought about was @delekkerste and hoping that he would be the lucky winner of this cover artwork here. Especially since this would be the perfect bookend to the entire GI Joe 21 interior artwork that he hopefully still has in his personal collection.

Oh, come on now........are you blind or something because I don't think you have to zoom in at all to see how pedestrian this page of artwork is. Definitely not up to Zeck's typical quality standard of artwork, or at least in comparison to some of his much nicer cover artwork. Unless this is a one-time totally irrational outlier of a result, and even if it is, I think this is going to jump the OA market for pages with first appearances of comic book characters like there's no tomorrow as collectors, investors, and speculators pile in.

For you, with the types of quality books that you must have in your personal collection.................most definitely!!! For so many others of us who started much later than you, and hence with lower quality books in our personal collection............not so sure.

This is a totally 110% accurate statement on your part here, especially since it sounds as though the sister is not a comic book collector. A totally mind boggling and overwhelming burden to pass onto anybody, especially if they don't have any eBay selling experience at all.

I might just sign up now since YOU must be attending then.

You kind sir, have clearly forgotten that both Heritage and CGC in conjunction have conducted a full DNA spectral analysis of the rat chews and bitten off corners and have reached the scientific conclusion beyond a shadow of doubt that all of these rat chews and missing corners have been traced back to the body of a dead rat found at the production printing plant. And as all long time collectors should clearly know by now, all production factory and printing related defects on books are to be discounted and ignored for grading purposes. As for your so-called significant spine stress, must you also be reminded that spines, edges, corners, and staple areas are all above the pay grade of the CGC graders for the grading of this Promise Collection, as the grading of these parts of the book falls under the domain of the suits in the top floor penthouse corner suite.

The part I didn't understand is that the email states the ticket sales is capped at a max of only 200 attendees.

Since I received an email on this event from Heritage, the part I don't really understand is that ticket sales for this event at a $100 a shot is limited to only a max of 200 attendees and nobody else gets in after that.

Out of 15 Universal copies, 4 are 0.5s. That says a lot. Just maybe this says that instead of doing your usual Friday night partying, you should give some serious thought to tossing in a bid for this book.

Although my head now hurts like @SuperBird's head, I do believe you have it right here.

Good humour, or bad humour in this case here is everlasting.

Well, it's definitely worth SOMETHING if you are traveling in a foreign country and bring your copy into the squat potty to read while doing your doodie, only to find out that it's got no toilet paper.

Math. I hate it. lol. And apparently, you can now go with the 15% BP for the CC auction model which somehow mathematically, effectively results in you paying slightly less than the full 10% auction fee. Then again, I heard this BP fee is apparently a big turnoff for some bidders, so it's probably really a case of six or half a dozen of the other.

Yeah, I remember thinking in the 90's that I had avoided the big fall off the edge of the cliff after turning down the LCS owner's offer of ordering a copy of TMNT 1 for me back in the 80's for the ridiculous and utterly outrageous sum of $300. After taking a look at a copy which he had just acquired for another customer, I handed that toxic POS looking book back to him as fast as I could and looked for somewhere to wash my hands to get all that soiled poop off, thinking nobody in their right mind would pay even $3 for that book with that horrendous looking artwork. Being the mainstream type of collector, I then proceeded to immediately doubled down on my mistake by instead ordering the signed and number hardcover edition of the Dark Knight book for $40, and a book which is probably worth no more than a roll of toilet paper today which is probably all it's good for anyways.

20% is still a lot. I would presume they’d offer me about the same for my Superman 2-26 higher grade run. If this is the case, then it sounds as though they are no longer offering as much of a discount as compared to a couple of years ago. Maybe it's got something to do with the run up in prices for the consignors since Covid or the extra promotion and potential reach they feel you are now receiving from their auction of the Promise Collection books.

Well, if it's Action then I am not so sure about that since the Metro/CC clientele base for early Actions appears to be quite strong and runs quite deep, depending upon the condition. Then again, was that only for Action 1 because they are definitely the go to guys and seeming market maker for that particular book there.

I wish ............and if I was so lucky at these prices right now, especially the one that I really want and still on top.

I guess you probably wasn't around back in the 90's then, as you certainly can't say the book was going up during this time period. I just checked my copies of the Overstreet guides for some kind of indication and it showed top of guide for TMNT 1 at $325 in his 1991 guide and from there, drifted all the way down to only $120 by the 2000 price guide. Of course, we all know that old slow Bob is very conservative when it came to his valuations, but what we know even more is that he ABSOLUTELY hated to ever have to lower prices in his guide, so for him to show a declining price trend for 10 years is really really saying something about what was happening to the valuation of TMNT 1 during that time period.

Not sure about SA books, but from a GA point of view, I am a bit surprised that I am still high bidder on several of the lots in the current Heritage Auction and a couple by quite a bit. Especially at this late stage in the game where I was pretty much already long gone and out of the running in previous recent auctions.

I sincerely hope that you are not working on the belief that CGC by itself, is generating hundreds of millions in revenue on a annual basis. If that indeed was the case, it certainly would have cost Blackstone a whole lot more than just $500M to acquire CCG, which has something like 8 or 9 companies under its corporate umbrella, with CGC being one of the smaller of the nine. In fact, small enough to the point that the then ownership of CCG gave nothing but a passing thought to them as the coin side of the operations was what was important to them from both a business and personal interest point of view.

In talking with other boardies here, I don't believe you can really get it down to as low as 10% all in, even if you do have half decent books to auction off. From what I've been told, depending upon your books of course, the best is probably somewhere in the 13% to 15% range, but that's actually not too bad at all given Heritage's clientele base and more sophisticated website. Pretty much bang on as it's definitely a case of NOT one venue suits all. All I know is that if it's OA, then I would definitely go with Heritage. If it's pre-Robin 'Tec books or uber HG TMNT 1's, then I would go with CC since they seem to be the market maker in this part of the market. Finally, if's it's hghest graded copies of what are otherwise relatively common BA and CA books or movie related hyped books, then I would go with CL because that seems to the the domain or home base of the CGC label chasers.

Sadly, that's the way the math works if you are planning to auction off ordinary run of the mill non-key non-high dollar value books through Heritage, which to me clearly indicates that HA is NOT the auction venue that you should be selecting if you are planning to auction off these kinds of books.

To be even more fair, any buyer who dares to resubmit one of the Promise Collection books must be a real masochist. Seriously though, I guess only time will tell as unlike the Berk Collection with many books coming back out in the marketplace encased in higher graded slabs within the month, we just might have to wait until 2023 to see what happens with the Promise Collection resubs from the more recent auctions, if there are even any.

You really can't be serious here when you say you don't know the reason why? By the way, isn't it theoretically impossible in this age of the CGC CPR game, that we have yet to see a single one of these Promise Collection books come back to market encased in a higher graded slab. Based upon past history with other graded books and collections sold and with how grading is still really more of an opinion (albeit a so-called "expert" one) as opposed to an exact science, we surely would have expected to see several of these books come back into the marketplace in higher grade. And yet, in this particular case with the Promise Collection of books, a big NADA with not a single book regraded higher to this point in time, which kind of makes me wonder who the lucky submittor of these books were, to still have a perfect batting average after all this time.

With how everybody seems to be zoning in even more than usual on the key first appearances in this red hot marketplace of ours, I've always felt that the second appearance issues have gone under appreciated and undervalued, with this little beauty here being no exception at all: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/detective-comics-28-dc-1939-cgc-fn-60-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7266-95037.s?ic16=ViewItem-Auction-Archive-OtherAvailable-081514# Will definitely be interesting to watch and see where this nicely presenting unrestored copy ends up at since there's only 5 other unrestored copies of this key book with the 2nd appearance of Batman in higher grade, and yet the current bid for now is only a shade over its condition guide value.