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Yes, my bad as you are definitely right since anything at all that's related to Seth Rogen would be

I just looked that up and now I have a headache! Well, that's why I always look for CGC 0.5 graded copies of books because the first bite is always the tastiest. Unfortuantely, for most books, they are usually the toughest to find with the CGC Census Population Report usually indicating no copies graded at that maximum tastiest level.

I believe the reason you are puzzled as to why collectors and especially speculators are not holding onto this book, is that unlike you, they probably know full well that this book is nowhere close to being rare at all. Although there is indeed a lot of speculative demand for this book due to movie hype and the like, we all know historically what tends to happen with movie and TV realted hype books longer run. Especially for ones where there are already almost 400 graded copies in CGC 9.0 high grade and above or what amounts to an huge chunk of the entire print run, with no doubt still a good number of raw copies out there that has yet to touch the hands of a CGC grader.

Well, if you believe in the concept of decreasing marginal utility, it should be more than half of that 9.9 number there.

Not sure exactly what you are referring to here? Is it Bitcoin which has rocketed up from the low $5K since the pandemic started back last March all the way up to $48K, or is it the stock market in terms of the Nasdaq which has risen from the high 6K point up to just over the 14K point mark or even the S&P 500 which has gone from the low 2K point mark up and now approaching the 4K point mark over the same time period? Definitely appears to be a ton of what they used to call in the old days as irrational exuberance and something to be careful about.

Since you read the Mile High story, you do realize that the Church family sold the entire collection off for only $2,000 or for low 4-figures only. Apparently, they assume there were about 20,000 books in there and at 10 cents a pop, that worked out to a steal for them if they could only find some young whippersnapper of a fool to pay brand new prices for old used comic books.

Yes, makes no sense to me that those much older and HTF cards are not worth more than the 80 million plus Marvel cards from the 90's. Then again, I guess the ready availablity of the cards from the 90's is the answer because it allows everybody in this pump and dump game to make money all the time over and over again on something that should actually be worthless.

Don't really follow the Cerebus market that closely since so very few copies in this grade range ever tends to show up in the marketplace. With that qualifier in place, it would not surprise me to see it approaching $20K with how prices are going in today's pandemic driven marketplace.

With Covid and the whole pandemic thing happening, will going to movies ever be the same even if the vaccine is in place?

What is your definition of BIG here? Do you mean only a small Big here or do you mean a BIG BIG here?

Yeah, I guess it's starting to look like the CGC pump and dump game with respect to the slabbing of "common as dirt" MA books that just hit the shelves of the LCS's last week, and yet the day traders or flippers seem to have no problem finding fresh meat to feed on.

Any chance of injecting some life into those all-chromium GA classic comic cover cards from the 90's for GA books which nobody here could dream of ever buying?

Fixed. Yeah, sadly is just the same old, same old...................I guess the old pump and dump game keeps finding new opportunities and new willing suckers who are more than happy to dig deep down into their pockets.

Personally, I believe that finding a copy of these truly HTF early 80's books in true HG condition would be a lot more difficult than finding a buyer for them.

Personally, if I had a high grade GA book with a clipped coupon for example, I would definitely prefer it to be in a Green Qualified slab with say a CGC 9.0 label , as opposed to simply having a blue CGC 0.5 slab labeled as Incomplete which really tells me zippo about the actual condition of the underlying book itself. Not sure about the reason for your aversion to a Green label, but then again, I guess it's really a case of to each their own.

Not that shocked either. Especially in this climate. Always thought this book was underappreciated and undervalued. Those black covers make it damn near impossible for 9.8s too. Have you guys ever considered the possibility that the main reason why these Ronin's are as you say, near "impossible" to find in high grade, is that these books are actually so common (even in high grade) that most collectors would not even consider slabbing them due to their relatively perceived low dollar value?

Well, since some of these so-called "rookie" cards from this Modern Age Marvel set with 80 million of them out there are able to sell for 4-figures , then how much would some of the much older and surely harder to find Silver Age Marvel cards from way back in 1966 be going for in this pandemic crazed marketplace?

Well, not sure if the bids have gone up since your post here, but the high bid so far doesn't look that low to me at $72K or something likea 20% discount to condition guide on its first day out of the gate. Considering that we were talking about the nose diving auction results for AS 8 with the last 4 copies of them averaging out to a final result that were running in the range of a 15% discount to guide, not sure if a 20% discount to condition guide is really all that bad since we still have 12+ more days of bidding to go on this book here.

Dang, still strong Well, you never know...........it'll probably weaken right after you pick up your copy at record setting top dollars.

I predict that your $11K figure for the final result is way too low, but we'll see.

Yeah, not sure if slabbing a book at the lowest CGC Universal grade possible just to get it slabbed with a blue label is going to help with the pricing of the book in the end. At this lowest possible grading bar, the owner might just do better leaving it as a raw book denoting the missing back cover and hope the much better than Poor looking front cover is enough to entice potential buyers to bid higher on the book than if it was just sitting in a 0.5 Poor slab.

You can certainly say that with respect to pretty much any book in CGC 9.8, and even more so when it comes to books that don't have value when graded in CGC 9.4 or below. Not sure what this copy would go for in CGC 9.6, but I am willing to bet that it would be a pretty huge drop from the $15K that is sold for back in 2016: https://www.comicconnect.com/item/689571 Then again, I imagine it makes perfect sense to the CGC label collectors even though I am also quite sure that other CGC 9.8 graded copies of this book coming into the marketplace would sadly not reinforce the price of this book, but instead would push the value far below the $15K price that was originally paid for this copy here. So, I guess it's really a case of to each their own, as long as they are happy with their book.

Not really since that's going to be a fraction of where this copy is going to finally finish up at by the time it's all said and done in only 11 short days from now.

I believe you got the answer to your question right in the next post after you asked your question above: As I have mentioned before, not even sure why CGC uses this .5 Poor grade for the book since its overall condition level, save for the missing back cover and hnece considered to be Incomplete, is clearly higher than a true Poor condition level book. This .5 label actually impart zero information to the owner and any potential bidders as to the actual condition of the underlying book itself. Not sure why CGC did not use their Green Qualified label for the missing back cover and then gave a proper grade to the rest of the book save for the missing back cover since this is the ideal time to be using their Qualified label here.