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Oh, crappers..................now they've got scans up for the books which I want and bidders are already starting to throw in their bids on them.

Holy mackerel. That is definitely a case of someone buying the grade, not the book. I cannot believe CGC gave that book a 5.5. It should've been a 3.5 at best. It seems like grades have softened up across the board at CGC since Blackstone took over. Considering who the consignor was, I totally agree with you and can't believe that book only managed to get a CGC 5.5 grade. I guess CGC must have heard all of the complaints from the boardies here about preferential grading for certain clients because that is a big drop from the CGC 8's and 9's that we are used to seeing when it comes to "production" mouse chews:

Definitely one of the "goofier" covers Oh, come on you two.................It's not REALLYT that bad of a cover as it is a si-fi theme cover with aliens, even though they do look a bit like the Great Gazoo from the Flintstones.

They never promised them a rose garden. Well, looks like a drop of 36% on this Promise copy here which is running a bit higher than the -24% that @MasterChief was showing in his most recent November 2023 month end update for the Promise Collection resales.

Are you the consignor? Or just maybe he's planning to be the consignor in the next few years AFTER the reboot.

The question here is will they hit 100% by the time the 3-minute extended bidding buzzer starts to go off in 3 short weeks from now? Does anybody here have any idea who Rob's replacement is going to be or is this how they are planning to run all of their auctions going forward?

Welcome to the boards here, but you really DO need to be less ambivalent and more decisive with your posts here, as it sounds like you are trying to disagree with @jimbo_7071's guesstimate of a max of only $20K to $25K for this copy of Police Comics 1.

If you are waiting for the color purple, I hope you are super patient because it's going to be a long and endless wait is all I can tell you.

And if there was a book that I really really wanted like one of the rare HTF Jon Berk copies, I'd be and hope that nobody else bids on it.

Well, looks like we got the obvious answer to my question which I had posted here last week: Although he was not doing the scanning himself, it look like the loss of Rob is clearly evident as he was probably the go to guy in terms of coordinating everything to ensure that all of the auctions was set up to run properly.

Extemely sad to hear and a great loss to our HOBBY as I could feel the sincere love he had for the vintage comic books when I first met him in '95. May he RIP as he settles back in his chair to catch up on his reading in that big comic book shop in the sky.

I guess this one here didn't pass muster as there must be a difference between "very minor" and "small" when it comes to color touch and glue: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/blue-beetle-50-fox-features-syndicate-1947-cgc-apparent-fn-vf-70-slight-a-off-white-to-white-pages/a/122409-17094.s# Still managed to fetch $1,080 or some 1.55X Unrestored condition guide value just a few minutes ago in Heritage's Sunday auction. Good to see that there seems to be far less of a stigma attached to the PLOD books with Slight Resto now as compared to when CGC first started up some 20 plus years ago.

Quite possibly, but if it's an outlier than it's probably part of the entire Covid pandemic bubble that took place as this one with a similar type "glue" notation on the spine of the cover also sold for an equally astounding multiple to condition guide as pictured on the previous page: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/police-comics-1-quality-1941-cgc-gd-25-cream-to-off-white-pages/a/122152-17699.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 With 36 higher graded copies at the time, this CGC 2.5 with dried glue on the spine still managed to sell for $11,400 or an equally stunning 7.6X condition guide value in December of 2021 during the peak of the pandemic bubble, so it will definitely be interesting to see where this 3rd highest CGC 8.5 graded copy finishes up at in four short days from now.

My guess is $20—$25K on both books, but it's exactly that—a guess. It all depends on who's bidding on a particular day. Willing to place a friendly wager with you that it goes for more than your high guess of $25K, especially since it is the 3rd highest graded copy ar CGC 8.5 and behind only the Church and the Windy City pedigree copies. Especially since this CGC 4.0 graded copy was able to fetch $18K with another whopping 26 copies in higher graded condition at the time of sale in late 2022: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/police-comics-1-quality-1941-cgc-vg-40-white-pages/a/7335-88095.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

Well, even though it's normal for multiples to drop as a book hits the less affordable higher grade condition levels, it still would not surprise me at all it surpasses $50K as that represents less than a mere 3X its condition guide valuation of only $17,150. Especially since it's been almost two whole decades since a HG copy last hit the marketplace, with the most recent Universal copy in any grade being a CGC 4.0 graded copy that sold for some $18K back in October of 2022 or at a price multiple of some 7.5X conndition guide value. Well, if the same trend holds true to form for the overwhelming majority of the recent Promise Collection resales, then I would expect this Promise copy of All-Select 9 to take a huge huge fall from the rather insane $43.2K price point it was able to achieve in its first go round back in the summer of 2021.

Well, there's actually a perfectly fine explanation for this as word on the street is that the Zanello's personally "handled" all of the Promise Collection books while employed at CGC and simply used them as the practice run for their planned big money making scheme scam.

NO, but definitely still worth more than if they all came from a certain comic book shop in Brooklyn encased with the exact same CGC 9.8 graded serial number.

I still remember when the whole pressing controversy was the hot topic of the day for the longest while back then and Borock said for those who wanted to differentiate between pressed books from unpressed books, just assume that every single book sitting in a blue slab has already been restored pressed.

Most definitely and personally what I feel to be a key GA book that had for years been pretty much under appreciated and undervalued with the origin and first appearance of the long running Plastic Man character along with the Phantom Lady character who would become much more famous and a desireable character under the artistic hands of Matt Baker. Definitely no longer the case during the past few years as clearly evident by the above noted CGC 2.5 Heritage auction result at a rather stunning $11,400 or at a multiple of 7.6X condition guide value back in 2021. Label notes aside, will definitely be interesting to see what this 3rd highest graded copy (i.e topped only by the Church CGC 9.4 and Windy City CGC 9.2 graded copies) will be able to fetch in today's post-pandemic marketplace where a lot of books have cooled right back down to pre-pandemic levels or lower, while others have continue to rocket upwards: https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dpolice%2Bcomics%2B1%26ItemType%3DCB%26CGC%3DYES%26CBCS%3DYES%23Item_1751205&id=1751205&itemType=0

Although technically correct as Chesler books, I always think of those Star Comics and Star Rangers as early Centaurs.

I think a lot of this was done during the earlier time period when restoration was seen as ADDING VALUE to an unrestored book, similar to how undisclosed pressing and cleaning is seen as adding value to an unrestored book in today's marketplace.

Would you also be referring to the overwhelming majority of books being graded today, and in particular, to any of the books that have through the CPR process or have gone through CCS because pressing and cleaning used to fall under the restoration umbrella before CGC came into existence with their undisclosed grading standards and didn't bother to tell us that it wasn't until they got outed on these boards here years later.

I still remember the classic example when CGC first started up in 2000, being the Church copies of Adventure 40 with the first conceived appearance of the Sandman and More Fun 52 with the first appearance of the Spectre. Can't remember where they were sold, but the Church copy of More Fun 52 was encased in a blue Universal slab and denoted as having a very minor amount of color touch and glue and ended up selling for either a huge premium or a small multiple to condition guide value. The Church copy of Adventure 40 was not quite so lucky as it was denoted as having a very small amount of color touch and glue and ended up selling at only a huge discount to condition guide on that first go round, before it ended up selling for much more in 2004 at Heritage: So, based upon these two examples, it would tend to confirm that the AMOUNT of color touch and/or glue does play some sort of a role in whether the book sits in a blue Universal slab like the Police Comics 1 above or whether it sits encased in a purple PLOD holder like this Church copy of Adventure Comics 40. As for the Church copy of More Fun 52, it's well known that Borock used to own it, but apparently sold it long before he got involved with CGC: In 1995 he set a record price when he purchased the Church copy of More Fun Comics #52 (the first appearance of The Spectre) for a then-unheard-of $115,000.

True that wayyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo longgggggggggggggg Well, are you also referring to the Heritage Signature Auctions here because they also start the bidding process for the same 3-week time period prior to the end of their auctions?