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Congrats on your super spectacular find! Looks like a little press job probably wouldn't hurt some of those books. That is, if you are into that sort of thing.

I believe "if" dc does create a monthly shazam comic and "if" they do the proposed captain marvel movie, interest will pick up for the title and values will increase... I do believe you really meant to say Whiz 22, whether or not there was a monthly Shazam comic and even if there is NO Captain marvel movie.

Tried to keep it to covers with supes on these are my favs 1- supes 14 2-action 1 3-action 7 4-action 12 5-supes 17 6-supes 1 7-action 13 8-action 15 9-supes 24 10-action 17 Just off the top of my head. List could change tomorrow Does this mean that you consider Action 12 to be a Superman cover or is that cover just so good that you had to make an exception for it? Well, I guess Superman does technically show up there in the corner of the cover, similar to how Archie shows up on the cover of Jackpot 4.

I would expect a strong 5.0 to potentially reach a 5.5 price but not to exceed it unless someone thought it was going to possibly upgrade. Have you not heard of the rising trend in terms of buying the book, as opposed to buying the label which is so passe in today's market. Especially with collectors now willing to pay record dollars for entry level copies of key or HTF books when they become available, even if they are in ungraded raw condition and sometimes, even in restored condition.

Sounds to me like a potential lawsuit as Dan is stealing and publishing copyrighted auction results information right from you boys at the CL website. Seriously though, it would be fantastic if CL could set up some sort of archive database for their auction results going forward. Aren't the prices realized from a major auction like this a matter of public record? One would think so otherwise it would be illegal to post even a single result in passing that said if it upset clink I'd pull the thread You guys do realize that I was only joking and saying it in jest since I did have it in italics, along with the emoticon at the end.

Sounds to me like a potential lawsuit as Dan is stealing and publishing copyrighted auction results information right from you boys at the CL website. Seriously though, it would be fantastic if CL could set up some sort of archive database for their auction results going forward.

I'm sure all of us are in that boat. I know I am. Some books are almost impossible to come by, and when they do show up, trends be damned. Get it while you can. Yes, and when you are buying to keep, the important thing to remember is that it's not so much about trying to time the market, as opposed to time in the market. It's simply amazing how time in the market can often times overcome serious mistakes such as overpaying or failing to detect restoration when you had initially brought the book.

Especially when the half the dealers want to report all seems designed to steer and mislead the subscriber's impression of the market as going in one direction only. On the other hand, GPA themselves are knowingly guilty of providing only half information since they apparently only report on CGC sales and nothing at all on the other company's slabbed sales.

I shall make an attempt at one of them. I've always wondered if having such an extended run of big dollar books might actually keep prices lower than what they would normally be? After all, collector's pockets are only so deep. In a normal auction, you may have only 2 or 3 of these books available, and as a result, all eyes would probably be focused on each one of the books. In this particular auction, you have 10 books which is probably far too many for most collectors to even think of picking up. As a result, would many books result in less eyeballs on each on of them as collectors would probably focus in on only the ones which they really want, and therefore, result in lower prices.

Tape just makes me cautious as there are a set of circumstances (which of course won't apply to all books) where a book graded under the old rules will take a decent hit on re-submission. Any idea when CGC changed this policy with respect to tape on books? Sounds as though the new label books with tape is a safer bet as opposed to old label books with tape then.

+1 Definitely will be the one to watch as it is clearly the highest graded book out of this pre-Robin 'Tec run. Will also be interesting to see if it is going to do better for the consignor on this go round. Originally sold by HA as part of their Billy Wright Auction back in late February of 2012 as a CGC 8.0 copy for $44.8K. Flipped back out 2 short months later in early May on HA as a CGC 8.5 copy, but took a big hit as it came in at only $38.8K on this second go round. Original purchaser probably lost over $10K on the attempted flip of this book once you add in auction reselling fees, pressing fees (if any), and regrading fees. I am fully confident the book will do a lot better for the consignor on this particular go round, given how hot the pre-Robin 'Tec books are.

Wow.....the pre-Robin Tec's seems to be one of CC's specialties as they seem to have them in almost every single one of their auctions. Any idea when this next auction is approximately going to be?

Depends on what you did with the money you received from selling your AF 15. If you are living in the right location and you had used it as part of a down payment to invest in real estate after the housing bubble crash, you can probably pick up 2 or 3 better copies of AF 15 with that money.

I asked. It's not for sale or coming to market. It was a customer's copy. Roy; You are nothing but a teaser!!! Now that you've got all of the other boardie's panties tied up in knots waiting for your little scan.

Well that sure is Fine +1 That is most definitely more than FINE, especially the beauty on the left.

Absolutely loved the Junior GGA covers, but unfortunately, they were always a bit pricier than what I was willing to pay when they did appear in the marketplace.

You mean you was hoping for loose grading, and instead, you ended up getting accurate grading. Seriously though, thanks for responding and giving us a definitive answer so that this thread can finally get back on track.

Hope you didn't have to sell your liver to get this copy? Almost seems that's required now the way some of these GGA covers are going for huge dollars, even in raw low grades sometimes. Especially since this one definitely has both the curves and the headlights.

Care to explain why you regretted submitting your books to them? Was it because they came back graded too loose or tighter than what you were led to believe by most comments here? Or was it due to slow turnaround times, poor communications, insecure packaging for shipping, etc? Or was it simply because they did not look nice and were not compatible with the rest of your slabs since the others are all CGC slabs? Your post just left a lot of unanswered questions that should probably be clarified a bit more. By the tone and context I presumed that he simply got a disappointing, cut-rate price for the slabs when he tried to sell.... -J. If you want to debate a point - bring data, bring fact, bring healthy tension. And accept the fact from time to time you'll be wrong. In this particular episode of jaydog gets his panties in a bunch - you clearly put words in someone else's mouth (slanderous ones at that). You get called out on it, and to defend yourself, call attention to an unrelated thread (or, peripherally related at best), serving to do nothing but confuse the issue. Not to put words in someone else's mouth, but since I was the one who had asked the question. With these responses to my question, I went back in my mind and gave it some more thought. I believe I remember a comment from gadzukes in one of the threads about the new case holders that was kiboshed by CGC. I believe that it had nothing at all to do with grading or the reselling of the slabs. He was just sad to see them in a different holder as he was a loyal CGC customer and all of his slabs were from CGC. I also believe he is more of a collector as opposed to a seller. But just going off my memory and maybe gadzukes will come back and answer the question more definitively for us.

Heresy! Our 8.0 copies are GORGEOUS !!! Yes, my bet is also that the 8.0 lower priced copies will outperform the highest graded copies such as the 9.6's and 9.8's from a price percentage performance point of view, going forward.

Not too sure how you can equate Marvel Comics #1 with Detective #1. Marvel Comics #1 had Torch and Subby...Detective #1 had.... +1 My comparison would be more in line with equating Marvel 1 with Fantastic Four #1 and Cap 1 with AF 15.

Care to explain why you regretted submitting your books to them? Was it because they came back graded too loose or tighter than what you were led to believe by most comments here? Or was it due to slow turnaround times, poor communications, insecure packaging for shipping, etc? Or was it simply because they did not look nice and were not compatible with the rest of your slabs since the others are all CGC slabs? Your post just left a lot of unanswered questions that should probably be clarified a bit more.

But a Voldy 9.0 AF #15 sold for $237K this past spring. http://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1012?ArticleID=176921 Roy; Have you forgotten that this is the CGC boards and that you should never let boring facts get in the way of a good story. Actually, I believe you are still missing Jay's point here. If this particular copy was residing inside a CGC 9.0 slab, it would have sold for a cool half mmiiiillloon dollars, and not just for a paltry measly $237K!!!

This is the book you speak of: https://comics.ha.com/itm/silver-age-1956-1969-/amazing-fantasy-15-verified-signature-marvel-1962-cbcs-vf-85-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7139-91159.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515# The signature isn't visible. I don't think having a signature impacted the value of this book. I'm thinking it is the condition of the book and the fact it is CBCS. If this book was cgc 8.5, SS, it would have done much better. Yup. -J. Jay; Since you seem to be the acknowledged expert on CGC grading verus the other company, how would you grade this 8.5 signed copy relative to the recent CGC 7.5 copy (which was once a CGC 5.5 copy by the way ) and which managed to sell for something like $82K, or a premium of 50% above the condition guide price? Maybe we should snap up all of the key books graded by the other company and simply send them into CGC for regrading as there's obviously a ton of potential easy money to be made here. For example, even if CGC came back with a grade of 7.5 on this 8.5 signed copy of AF 15, you would still be ahead of the game. Of course, you would stand to lose a bit if it came back as a CGC 7.0 signed copy. But just imagine the almost 6-figure profit you would make if it came back in the same 8.5 grade or your big jackpot winning if it came back as a 9.0 graded copy (which I personally don't see any chance of by the way). I guess this goes to show the power of the brand and being first to market, even though historical evidence has clearly shown the product to be of less than consistent quality over the years.

The poor thing was obviously "stan-lee'd". That kinda accounts for the 2500 imho. , not a fan of the signature series? Yes, it would appear that a signature increases the value of an otherwise worthless common drek book. When it comes to a true vintage collectible comic book, however, a signature is probably treated more like a clear and visual defect by the marketplace. Probably one of the reasons why the signed 8.5 copy of AF 15 in the most recent HA auction managed to sell for only something like more than a $35K discount to the condition guide price.