sfcityduck

Not a single person's incorrect understanding.

You are attempting to rebut the standard English language definitions of words. I quoted you actual definitions. In response, you give me your emotional reactions devoid of any supporting evidence. That's an absurd and illogical position to take. And your final sentence is tautological. You argue: "Yes. Yes it is. You sold it. It's not yours anymore. It no longer belongs to you. You have no right to future money from it." Except, I do have a right to future money from it, IF that is what the parties agreed. There is nothing "morally" wrong with an artist bargaining for that deal.

Forgive me, but I'll stick with standard English language definitions over your unique and fanciful understandings of word meanings.

In an arms length negotiation regarding the price of a collectable, which really have no intrinsic value which can justify the prices paid, the seller is motivated by "greed" to get the highest price possible and the buyer is motivated by a "selfish" desire to pay as little as possible. Neither party is acting altruistically. The term "greed, which literally is defined to mean 'intense and selfish desire for something," has obviously application to comic collectors and dealers. As does the literal definition of "selfish" being "concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure." Not a moral judgement, but I can see how you might be confused by that.

But for the LJ association, I'd rather have the cover proof and a coverless comic as two separate items.

All business transactions are, by definition, greedy and selfish. Sellers generally want the highest price they can get, and buyers generally want the lowest price they can get. Both act out of self-interest. Assuming that the buyer and seller are both bargaining in good faith, then there is no "moral right" involved at all, unless you think that a seller has a moral right to dispose of property, assuming legality, as they see fit (which you appear to be more than a bit schizophrenic about) and that a buyer has a moral right to purchase property, assuming legality, on terms they see fit - provided that they can negotiate those terms with a counter-party.

Never heard of ink "flaking off." Not sure why it would have flaked off so extensively on the spine so much, but not near the punctures and lower right corner. Strange, to say the least. I'd like to see what the back cover looks like. But, if you're right, that just further proves this thing was not part of the original print run of the October copies.

This thing makes my head hurt. First, the "Pay Copy" is what I think of as "the Lloyd Jacquet copy" of this comic. Second, I'm not convinced this actually should be treated as a copy of Marvel Comics 1 (Timely 10/39). Based on the descriptions and the appearance, it seems like this was a proof cover which was cut in half and then hand stitched to an interior of MC 1. Which means the "cover" of this thing presumably predates the print runs for the October and November editions of Marvel Comics 1. It's just not an example of the newsstand comic book. It's not a Marvel Comics 1, despite what the holder implies, it's something else. Third, what it is mystifies me. It might be an ashcan. But, I wonder why you'd be assembling an ashcan after they already had printed the comic (ashcans are made before you go to press, usually using interiors from other comics (DC) or quick prints of part of a comic (Fawcett)). I don't know of any ashcans created after they had already printed the whole comic interior. This thing was clearly assembled after the interiors had already been printed. So this is one weird item. Finally, I don't quite understand the holder. Am I missing where the holder notes that it is restored? Isn't the white on the spine some sort of leafcasting or underlay? It's not part of the original cover proof. Having said all that, it's a cool thing, whatever it is. Certainly worth some bragging rights. P.S. What's the "Marvel Japan Collection"? Metro's hype name for a comic collection out of Japan? If so, what do they do when they sell the next collection out of Japan? They got to be more creative in picking their hype names.

Looking the at the side by sides, I just gotta say that Batman 1 is a far better graphic. A really unusual for its time, bright, bold image. Simpler is better in this case.

Now that's dedication!

This thread's too dark! Need to lighten up the black cover theme:

I once spent 15 years looking for one book. Does that count? I know of only one other guy in the U.S. who has one. Here's the story: That beat out the two years I spent trying to find this book, which I quickly passed on to the collector who wanted and needed it most: By comparison, my latest quest only took a couple of weeks. Which was shocking. I thought it would take a LOT longer. But still got me something I don't think anyone else has:

It's a sad story I won't repeated here. Suffice it to say that the kickstarter Nelvana, Brok Windsor, and Jonny Canuck projects were great! The Doc Stearne Mr. Monster project was funded in 2015 but due to tragic circumstances is still awaiting completion.

Not as rare as the crowdfunded Mr. Monster book.

Mine:

This is incredibly beautiful and super cool! I'll post pics of mine, but it's no where near as nice as your top of census gem! Thanks for posting the mailer, I was wondering what they looked like. And now I'm wondering: Does CGC do mailers?

No, thank YOU for sharing your collection and letting me know this existed!

There are very nice reproduction spinners with "Hey Kids, Comics!" style graphics out now for under $400. It's a great option for the man cave. You can also find the Superman/Spiderman/Archie/Richie spinners for under $500.

For those who like racks of all ages, the Golden Age Comic rack thread has branched out into a general rack discussion:

Neither Hakes nor Heritage have auctioned the version with BBs included, however. Anyone own one? I'm proud to say I now do. (Pics to follow when I get home).

Digressing back to the issue of the variants of the Daisy Handbook No. 2, it's been known that two different back cover versions exist: (1) The "Boys Bill of Rights" version which Hakes says is the most common version: And (2) the "Gun-n-scope target outfit" version which is apparently rarer:

As I'm prone to do, I was researching the Daisy Handbook, looking at auction results and ads for it, when I realised something important which made the idea of seeking out a Daisy Handbook even more cool. There are multiple versions of the Daisy Handbook! Some rarer then others, which I'll discuss below. And one of those versions has a really cool feature: Yep. Some Daisy Handbook 2's came with a package of Daisy BBs included! And that's when I thought, now this is a quest worth undertaking! I sought out to find a Daisy Handbook 2 with BBs.

And as Marty's post demonstrates, the Daisy Handbook 2 was extensively advertised to kids through comics:

The Daisy Handbook No. 2 is not an expensive book. And they aren't rare, you can find them pretty easily on eBay. Or at least I didn't think they are rare, until I learned something really important about the Daisy Handbook No. 2. But, before I go into that, let me emphasise, that although these things are 4.5 inches x about 5.5 inches or so, and contain some non-comic content, including a Daisy catalogue, they definitely should be considered a comic: