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Star Trek is the most “woke” show in t.v. history. I would hate to see it fall off the rails.

That clicking sound you hear is SOTIcollector furiously searching the internet for a copy. You've given him another reason to keep on collecting!

Yep. Even Kirby had nothing on Wood in this area.

Wolverton, Cole, and Everett all wrote and illustrated many of their own stories. So did Barks and Kurtzman. They are among the best of the Golden Age and I don't it is coincidental that such writer-artists told better stories.

True that!

I am going to disagree with two basic ptremises: (1) That GA was not well-written and (2) that continuity is a hallmark of good comics. I find GA comics very readable and entertaining. Here is the thing: The greatest continuity ever written in comic form by a single writer-artist spanned decades and started in the 1930s: Hal Foster’s Prince Valiant. The pre-marriage adventures may be the high point for fantasy/adventure story and art. But that is a Sunday strip not a comic book (although it was extensively reprinted in comics). In comic book format, obvious top 5 candidates with some amount of continuity are late 40s - early 50s Barks Ducks, Batman and/or Robin from the same time period, and Spirit. But I do not think continuity matters and would put up Kurtzman’s “Airburst” and “corpse on the Imjin” or Krigstein’s “Master Race” for EC up against any comic published since. Ditto for some Toth romance stories (read the book “Setting the Standard”). And adventure. PCH by Everett etc. can be better than EC horror if you are looking for darker fare. I also enjoy Atlas superhero comics. I could go on and on. Go read some archive type books to get a sense of what is out there before you buy actual comics.

There’s something causing a coffee colored discoloration.

The question you should be asking is: What are you trying to accomplish? If you are going to be the dealer receiving this book as a consignment, all you need to do is look at Heritage, GPA and ask around and you'll starting getting some pricing infomation. My advice: Ask high, be ready to bargain down. If you want to buy it yourself. let your conscience be your guide. Realize that if you go to low, you might lose the purchase because any comic collector who owns a D27 (1) has a pretty good idea what its worth, (2) can figure that out by looking at Heritage sales, and (3) can always ask around including asking Heritage. You should be doing the same thing, which is what you do appear to be doing. I would not pay a dime to a dealer as a "consulting fee" just to tell me their opinion on the value of a comic. That info is thrown out for free around here all the time. I would certainly see no need to tell a dealer where the comic is coming from unless you want to risk being aced out. The only way I would involve another dealer is if you want to flip it and you need a partner. And then, yes, I'd have an enforceable written contract. And if the dealer screwed you, I'd be hiring someone to represent me in the lawsuit (if it comes to that I'm a West Coast attorney, Esquirecomics is on the East Coast, you can find representation).

If it an old time collector beware of amateur restoration in a low grade book.

Wertham would have really had a field day with Swedish Superman and Batman and Robin.

If you are interested in the backstory on Cosmic Aeroplane pedigree, you should make sure to check out this thread:

GCD let's you search for a story title. I'm suggesting that you run a search for the story title based on a Portugese to English translation of it. You might find it that way.

Grand Comic Database is your friend. Translate the title and look them up on the GCD.

And multiples for Okajima camp copies probably top everyone - especially in lower grades.

There is also a William Craig Holt in Utah who was married in 1984. Could be a son or other relative or maybe just a coincidence - but likely the band member referenced up thread?

All of the W.C. Holt Jr. stamped Cosmic Aeroplane books I see on Heritage date to 1944-1945. This may have something to do with W.C. Holt Jr.'s WWII service. It strongly suggests to me that it is an OO stamp by W.C. Holt Jr. or his sister or other family member was applied when the comics were purchased, not a collector's stamp (which would have been weird back in the mid-1970s given how big the stamp was).

We may have a source for an answer. Read this: https://cosmicaeroplane.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/cosmic-aeroplane-comic-books-vol-i/ Pertinent info:

Anything is possible. I have comics stamped by collectors back in the 1960s. I would like to know the dates of the comics on which the stamp appears. If it is a narrow range that suggests an OO stamp and if a broad range a collector’s stamp. The comic pictured in the recent threads is 1945, I think.

Cannot wait for the response! I ran searches for Williams and Walters C.Holt Jr.’s and came up with a candidate with the right birth and death dates to make sense of the chronology. The books were bought by CA in 1972, so your guy might be a little young to know the answers. I could be wrong. Took me three attempts to nail down the Promise OO.

What's he say?

Hi-Bid seems like a scammer's dream site.

My guess is your mailbox on this site is lighting up.

Makes me wonder if the comics were being printed in Utah. I agree the “art teacher” story could have been misdirection. Interesting that the first “recognized” pedigree was bought and came to market in 1977 whereas the second was bought and came to market in 1972. Reinforces that Chuck invented the concept and suggest what allowed the Cosmic Aeroplane books to become a pedigree was the check marks. Are there any other pedigrees that came to market before 1977? The irony is a lot of old time collectors bought groups of comics from or traceable to the OO - like BZ’s Gilchrist books - bought prior to 1977 and still kept as a group. But the concept of a “pedigree” had not been invented yet. The stories are endless - Bill Placzek (spelling?) said over on the Wigransky thread that the core of his 27,000 book collection (as of 1965) had come from a “huge collection” his dad bought for him. Guys on this site have mentioned their “personal pedigrees”. Makes you realize that if the Church books had come to market in 1967 ten years earlier they would have been dispersed like Wigransky and so many others huge collections. The next GA “pedigrees” to come to market IMHO are going to be the “personal pedigrees” that have been sitting in collections since the 60s or 70s.

Just any FYI as this came up on the Cosmic Aeroplane thread posted this week. My analysis (as set forth on that other thread):

That "W.C. HOLT JR." stamp is on a number of Cosmic Aeroplane books. Worth noting then that William C. Holt Jr. of Salt Lake City, Utah passed away on August 30, 1971 at the age of 56. I don't know if he was an art teacher, but he's the right age to have been buying the Cosmic Aeroplane books starting in the 1930s for use in his classes and he died at the right time for his collection to have been sold to the Cosmic Aeroplane shop in 1972. I still call "Church" books "Mile Highs," but in the interest of consistency maybe CGC should call this the Cosmic Aeroplane/William C. Holt Jr. pedigree. Interesting to know if there's any sort of WWII gap in the collection.