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Hahahaha. I agree Jasonray23! What is the hold up???

Thank you for sharing your opinion Grendelbo. Anyone else able to chime in? Thoughts? Thanks.

Hi all. I've got a Batman 23, which I love! What I don't love, is the old case, which has scratches and so forth, and looks a bit dull. I'm considering sending it to CGC for a new holder. But then... as long as I'm sending to CGC anyway... I start thinking about if it's worthwhile to clean and press and hope for a higher grade. That's where I'm hoping some of you can help. I rely on CGC for grading because I'm no good at it! Obviously, we have a starting point. Once upon a time it was graded 5.0 with off white to white pages. Grader notes say: "Center front cover lite stain / Full center front cover large crease / Full right back cover lite multiple crease / Spine stress lines breaks color" Oddly, the notes make no mention of the 1/2 inch tear at the top of the spine. Please provide your thoughts. Would this book benefit from a clean and press? Or is it more likely to stay the same grade... or even to go down?! Thank you in advance for your time and input.

We're moving from "early" April into "mid" April. Any news/announcements on the horizon? Can we get a specific date? Thanks.

Hey Mike, Appreciate you answering my question about DC labels. Still doesn't make sense to me though that a deal can't be reached... but I understand CGC has tried, and feels it's DC's fault no deal has been reached. (... Although I would presume that DC feels it's CGC's fault!) Anyway... new question: WHY does CGC put that hologram label on the front side??? No one wants to see it. Yes, fine, it adds a little extra security. But it would do that just as well if it were placed where it should be... on the back! This oversight has only gotten more egregious since the custom labels began. Now, they are detracting from the artwork of the label... or in some cases... covering up the artwork! It makes no sense to do it this way. Please let me know CGC's rationale for continuing to place these hologram stickers on the front, and/or if anyone in charge over there is beginning to discuss moving them to the back? (I've attached a view images to get the idea of what I'm talking about in case it wasn't already clear.)

In your rush to dismiss and discredit what I wrote... you failed to understand what I wrote! You're not wrong about the facts. But you're wrong that anything I said is contrary to those facts. I believe you misinterpreted my example explanation to the previous poster as me saying that my wrap would ultimately become labeled "page 1" and "page 2" by CGC. That's not what I was saying though. I was just explaining that "page 1" would contain pages 1 and 2 (of the story); "page 2" would contain pages 3 and 4 (of the story); "page 3" would contain pages 5 and 6 (of the story)... etc. Except that an advertisement could throw off those numbers (as it relates to the numbered story pages). Perhaps I could have been more clear. But certainly... you could have taken a moment to try and see what I was getting at before busting out the finger shaking and head exploding emoticons!

Yes, PovertyRow, I suppose I'm referring to a leaf as per your definition. But CGC refers to it as a "page" although of course it is really 2 pages (one on the front side and one on the back side). And this is different than a "wrap" which is 2 pages (really 4 pages) connected together. My goal is to separate the wrap into 2 parts; whereby CGC will label each part a "page" and I want to do so without any purple or green labels. As CGC does it, they would encase pages 1 and 2 (front and back side of the same 'leaf') and call it "page 1". Then they would take the leaf containing pages 3 and 4 and call it "page 2" etc. etc. So excluding Advertisement pages which could throw it off, if you see a CGC case for "page 5 only" you would find pages 9 and 10 of the comic there.

Can someone at CGC update us on if there are any ongoing talks with DC about potential custom labels using those characters? Feels like it would be a win for DC, CGC and customers looking for Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman/Flash etc. labels! How has a deal on this possibly not gotten done yet???

Thank you Danno616. Appreciate the thorough response! Personally, I don't understand why any auction site wouldn't want to give, and especially LINK, their sales data. It's free advertising! Be it a high price OR a low price, you'd get people clicking the link to check out the particular book to see why it went for so much (or so little). Either way, that's traffic going directly to their website. As for auction houses not wanting to show lower than FMV sales... that too is actually counter-intuitive. If people think they can get a "deal" at a particular auction house, it will drive more buyers there... which in turn will RAISE the prices... which in turn will drive more sellers to auction their books there. Rinse and repeat. So from a business standpoint... as far as I can tell... it makes absolutely no sense for an auction house not to participate in giving GPA their sales data.

For example, if I buy or sell a CGC book at a convention, can I go home and input that data into GPA? I don't mean, update my personal collection on their website... I mean, indicate the date, and the serial number of the comic, and the sale price, so that they update their data for all to see? BTW... while this would be useful if everyone were honest, we know everyone is NOT. So I'm hoping the answer is NO. The reason I'm asking is because I wonder about some of the sales data I see there. Some can be confirmed by direct link (Heritage and ComicConnect, for example); some can be found from eBay past sales (albeit without a direct link). But other books listed as having been sold at such and such price, be it way higher than expected -or way lower than expected- can't be confirmed anywhere. Which leads me to wonder if it's possible some people are gaming the most recent sales data by inputting their own sales. I wish ComicLink would include their data. And I wish all the data that was included had a direct link. Because sometimes a book seems off, but then you see the particular copy and understand why it went for way less.

Hello? Anyone? Some help please.

I suppose ripping it by hand would keep me clear of any purple or green labels, right? But it's certainly not going to come out looking as clean that way! Maybe I can fold it back and forth a hundred times until it basically falls apart at the natural crease? Very frustrating to not get any policy guidelines, help or advice from CGC on this.

I agree Doug. I'm asking CGC about CGC's policy and being told that CGC can't "assist" with that. Very strange indeed!

Okay. Thanks Matt. Now... Since CGC won't give a direct answer on this, I open it back up to the community: Can anyone here add their advice and/or experience with this? I'm looking for the "cleanest" way to divide the wrap, but it's very important to me that the page avoid getting the dreaded purple or green label, and I don't want any notation about it having been "trimmed" or any other such thing. Not sure why CGC won't explain the parameters around what to do or not to do... but hopefully someone here can help!

Ouch DougC. Yes, that's exactly the nightmare scenario I'm trying to avoid! I have indeed posted the same question in the "Ask CGC" section, but it's still "pending approval." We'll see what they say. And I like your idea of printing it out and sending it in, that way, so long as I follow their advise, then I feel like I've got a good argument against anyone there trying to hit me with the purple label. Thanks for the input.

Hi. I previously posted this in the grading/restoration section. But I had meant to post it here, in the "Ask CGC" section, because I had hoped to hear an answer directly from CGC. Thanks! ----------------------------------------------- I recently got a wrap of Amazing Fantasy 15, and I want to divide it into individual pages for CGC grading. I don't want to grade the wrap as is, because I'd rather both sides show the Spider-Man story, instead of one side being Spider-Man and the other side being a completely unrelated story from deeper in the book. What I'm worried about is, I don't want a purple/green label, or any notation about it being "trimmed." I've seen many pages graded with no such issue; but I've also seen a few that DO have that issue. If you could please advise me, how can I safely divide the wrap into two separate pages, avoiding any purple/green label or "trimmed" terminology, it would be greatly appreciated. Am I allowed to use scissors, or a knife? Do I need to tear it by hand? Thank you for your input. ----- Oh yeah... one more thing. Can I specify which side of the page I want to be the forward facing page (even if it would otherwise be considered the backside of the page)? As in, if the page were numbered 5 on one side and 6 on the other for example, could I have the side numbered 6 forward facing, with the side numbered 5 on the backside of the CGC holder?

Thanks Sauce Dog. Good to hear. (...And sweet Stan Lee page you've got!)

I suspect the part you put in bold only applies when it benefits CGC. For example, if you declare a book is worth 1,000 (but it's really worth 10,000) and a CGC employee uses it as toilet paper in a dire emergency (or a more likely scenario such as they spill coffee on it or something) then they will only reimburse you up to your declared value of 1,000 (ignoring the fact that it was really worth 10,000). But if it makes it to grading without any bathroom emergencies nor coffee mishaps... then you can bet CGC will NOT honor your stated value of 1,000 but will instead, in their sole discretion, declare the book is worth 10,000 and charge you accordingly.

I recently got a wrap of Amazing Fantasy 15, and I want to divide it into individual pages for CGC grading. I don't want to grade the wrap as is, because I'd rather both sides show the Spider-Man story, instead of one side being Spider-Man and the other side being a completely unrelated story from deeper in the book. What I'm worried about is, I don't want a green label, or any notation about it being "trimmed." I've seen many pages graded with no such issue; but I've also seen a few that DO have that issue. If you could please advise me, how can I safely divide the wrap into two separate pages, avoiding any green label or "trimmed" terminology, it would be greatly appreciated. Am I allowed to use scissors, or a knife? Do I need to tear it by hand? Thank you for your input. ----- Oh yeah... one more thing. Can I specify which side of the page I want to be the forward facing page (even if it would otherwise be considered the backside of the page)? As in, if the page were numbered 5 on one side and 6 on the other for example, could I have the side numbered 6 forward facing, with the side numbered 5 on the backside of the CGC holder?

But if zzutak is right, maybe the marvel chipping puts a 4.0 ceiling on any book that has it bad enough? And yet, as Point Five notes, and as I've heard over the years, Marvel Chipping is usually considered a widespread production defect of Marvel comics from this time period, and thus should be largely overlooked. I don't know. But I'd be PISSED if I had an AF15 that looked that good and it came back at 3.0!

For what it's worth, the original notes were: marvel chipping full right of front cover large crease full right of front cover breaks color large stain right top of back cover large tear with crease right center of front cover large, heavy, multiple crease bottom of back cover And the new notes are: marvel chipping full right of front cover tear with crease right center of front cover light staining to cover moderate creasing to cover

Exactly! I know the front cover is considered more important by most than the back cover. But this was a really GREAT improvement to the condition and eye appeal of the back cover. I was shocked at how nice CGC made it look. And then I was shocked AGAIN when I let myself look at the grade and saw zero improvement! So odd. This book (before and after pressing) side-by-side can't possibly be the same grade, right?

Sent in a beat up Strange Tales 97 graded by CGC at 3.5. It had some BAD wrinkles and creases and really looked like a good candidate for pressing (although it's obviously not a very high dollar book regardless). I just got it back, and without a doubt, it looks A LOT better! CGC was able to remove a lot of creases and wrinkles and the book, especially the back, presents a 100x better. ...And yet... it came back with the EXACT same grade. On the plus side, the book looks better, and it now has the Spider-Man label (because THIS is the first appearance of Aunt May and Uncle Ben... despite CGC continuing to claim it's AF15)... but mostly, this was generally a giant waste of time and money. I just can't understand how a book can be improved as much as this appears to be without it affecting the grade? The first two photos are what I sent in; the second two photos are what I got back. The 5th photo is a panel showing Aunt May and Uncle Ben in a comic that pre-dates AF15!

I was looking up an old Superman #6 book, and the cgc case appears off to me. In particular, the numbers above the barcode seems smaller than usual; the informational text to the right of the barcode is aligned left (rather than aligned right on all other cgc cases I've seen); and the book itself either appears smaller than normal books (while I thought Golden Age books were bigger)... or the case itself is bigger than normal. All in all... just seems very off. Can we confirm this is a legit book/cgc case? And is there any explanation for what I perceive as differences between this case and other cases from 2023? Thank you.

As seen in the screenshot, I am unable to add the X-Men (Magneto) custom label to this book. It's entirely appropriate given that this book states "Magneto prototype story." I assume the issue is that it's "Atlas Comics" rather than "Marvel"... but "Atlas Comics" became Marvel. They're the same company, with the same comic titles. Can you fix this online, or can I just write a note when I submit, for this label to be added? Thanks.