ShaggyB

So i got the email about a submission i sent with a signature on it for JSA.... so lets see what happens

Anyone know if Andy Lanning signing has occurred or when it will?

On 5/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, NewWorldOrder said:

I hope not.  Graders notes on anything 9.6 and above is a waste of my time and the graders.

Grade more books without having to stop for such trivial non-sense.

99% of all defects 9.4 and above = light spine stress

Hit the number button and move onto the next book.

If that was true then why would you not have it auto fill the box in the system.

This isnt something that has to be complicated if its standardized.

I currently have a 9.4 and a 9.8 of the same book that are in the exact same condition. Id like to know why 1 grader thinks its 9.8 and the other sees flaws that arent there.

Plain and simple, it doesnt take enough away from the process for me to ever agree with your line of thought. 

Do 1 less book a day, im fine waiting the time to know why 'you' feel my book is 9.6 and not 9.8 and know i will look at the notes and compare to the damn guide published by cgc so if im allowed 1 of something 'you' had better call out 2 of them.

On 5/26/2024 at 9:26 PM, Gaard said:

Is the supposed increase in TATs the main reason that people are opposed to the idea of all books getting notes?

No idea. Id wait an extra day for notes in a heart beat. Knowing why my 9.8 resubmit is now a 9.6 would be great.

Learning what i missed in my personal prescreen would help me out in picking books to send in.

I see no down side to this and i feel if its done on lower grades it should be done on higher ones too.

10 is the only one that doesnt need one and id automate that in the system, just give a generic note by default if you select 10 in the system.

On 5/26/2024 at 1:34 PM, Fat Izzy said:

Since graders' notes are a courtesy and not guaranteed, would you be willing to pay extra to guarantee all your submissions received them?

Could be another revenue stream for CGC...

My issue with them is when i submit a book that ive gone through their grader guide book on and done what ive seen them do on youtube and i get an unexpected grade with no notes.

How am i gonna get better at grading my books if they dont give me anything to go by. Am i wrong or are they?

Sent in 3 books recently. All of which had no spine stress, no color breaks, no roll, no ticks, no damage and sharp corners except one. The one had a bit of white showing on the spine corners (well with in 9.8 range).

All 3 books were nearly perfect and the one i was worried about got a 9.8. The other 2, that i felt would be possible 9.9 candidates (def 9.8s) given the sharp corners and no issues got 9.6 and 9.4 with no notes. The pics of them on the site look nearly perfect.... so i have no clue why they got lower than expected without the damn notes.

This should be included with every book and should be free. If that means the prices all go up 5 bucks overall, thats fine. Make it happen.

Im not going to select them from a list of options, when its a "valuable part of the process". That means its already part of the process. They just arent doing it for anything over 9.2 with any real regularity.

That needs to stop and they need to start doing them every time as its not some how harder to list the reasons on a 9.8 book vs a 8.0 book. Less flaws to speak to, and they have to plan like the book they get may be lower grade and need notes anyway when they give out their work loads, otherwise the number feels more like a quota and not a real grade

Let me further clarify.

When i submit a book to cgc, i am submitting it to go through the grading process. This results in a grade being given and my book being put in a slab.

The process of grading is something cgc graders all do and is somewhat standardized, i say somewhat as they are humans and each person may see it differently... but overall the steps should be the same.

If CGC list that graders notes are a "valuable part of the process", then i expect they are done with every book that goes through said process.

It says they will share them if they are done, but that means that some graders are actively not following the process mentioned when CGC stated that graders notes were a "valuable" "part of the process".

So what i expect is that i pay for a grading process to be done and every step of that should be done. If graders notes are a valuable part of that process i expect them to be included for the stated "free" (lol nothing is ever really free) with every book that went through the process.

Hence books at grade 10 should probably have a automated grader note that populates because why waste time to type "perfect in every way" or "wow what gem", but the rest should list some reason for the grade given placed in the system by the grader who followed the process.

I should not ever expect to get a book that looks perfect in CGC's pictures that is 9.4 with no notes, as that means said grader didnt follow the process and may have just put the book on out pile with a 9.4 grade they made up.... did it really go through the process if it skipped the "valuable part of the process"

On 5/25/2024 at 11:38 AM, Stefan_W said:

Right. So visiting The Louvre is a valuable part of any trip to Paris, therefore all trips to Paris have to include going to The Louvre. 

Gotcha. 

I think we have a fundamental difference of opinion over whether "valuable" and "necessary" are the same thing. I can live with that so I am tapping out. 

Nice try.... The Louvre is not listed as a "valuable part of the process" of visiting Paris. 

If it were, then you might have some leg to stand on there

Your issue and the reason you arent getting this is you are only looking at the word valuable. The problem here is its a valuable "part of the process". Meaning it is a part of the process.

Now if it is a part of the process and it adds value and is included unless its not done, then when its not done, the process wasnt really followed and is somewhat diminished.

Words have meaning but so do combinations of words in a row... or sentences.

It cant be a valuable part of the process and then be something you skip in the process, as that means you failed to do a step and what you did do lacks some portion of the value the overall process would have had if you had not skipped it.

On 5/25/2024 at 9:16 AM, Stefan_W said:

Sorry, I am not following. How does making the grader notes that are already made available for free lead to the conclusion that all books should have grader notes? 

If people want to make the argument that all books should have grader notes then that is their prerogative. But right now there is no promise on the part of CGC to do so. And if there is a point in the future when all books get notes it will either slow down the grading process or grading cost more, because that type of requirement would take more time and human resources. My personal view is that would be a waste of time and effort but people can disagree to their heart's content. I only object when people say that grader notes for all books are already promised because that is absolutely not the case. 

"Valuable part of the grading process".

That tends to mean that without them the grading process is some what flawed... otherwise they would not be a "Valuable part" of it.

Again if its a valuable part and its not avaliable, then it wasnt done.... and that allows you to doubt the grade.

And if it was done, it should be included... per their statement. By stating that its a valuable part of the grading process, it should be included with grading. And it is, when its done... but when its not, the words they use mean the grading job done on my book was less than it should have been as it missed the "Valuable Part" of the grading process

On 5/23/2024 at 9:40 PM, Stefan_W said:

You are absolutely not paying for grader notes right now. Here is what CGC has to say about them (https://www.cgccomics.com/grading/cgc-grader-notes/ ):

 

See here is the problem with that.... the site itself starts by saying this:

"These notes are a valuable part of the grading process, and CGC makes Grader Notes available online for free."

That implies the grader didnt really do his/her job if they didnt make them

On 5/21/2024 at 3:41 PM, Stefan_W said:

Based on my own submissions a lot more books are getting grader notes this year than before. 

The trick seems to be to find the right balance. Yes, I agree that more notes is a good thing and I am happy to see more of them nowadays. No, I do not want to increase the TATs substantially so every single book has grader notes. Others may disagree with me here, but honestly some books just do not need them. 

I think a guide to what the defects are is a great resource. I remember taking tons of time trying to figure out what "canvassing" means when I saw it in a note, and I am happy to not ever have to do that again. 

Yeah i completely disagree.

If its not a 10, i want to know why. Im paying for grading which includes notes... so include them.

On 5/20/2024 at 5:36 PM, ShaggyB said:

Finally in GEI status

Ok it shipped today... but holiday weekend means tuesday delivery... boooooo.

At least my request was honored

On 5/20/2024 at 8:22 PM, grendelbo said:

https://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/12950/graders-notes-guide-resources/

 

https://www.cgcgrading.com/resources/comics-grader-notes-guide

 

Thanks for adding.

Do they indicate they are expanding graders notes to required on all books anywhere in there?

On 5/9/2024 at 8:13 PM, ShaggyB said:

Anyone else submit to Daniel Warren Johnson and have you gotten any movement?

Finally in GEI status

Anyone else submit to Daniel Warren Johnson and have you gotten any movement?

On 4/30/2024 at 2:22 AM, Maboc said:

He was one they did the signing with on Friday at C2E2. They posted some shorts from the signing over the weekend.

Ooo thank you.

Anyone else submit to Daniel Warren Johnson?

And if you did, any movement?

Any updates on when this will be avaliable to mail into? 

I have a large pile ready to start going in.

On 4/19/2024 at 5:08 PM, rexinnih said:

Austin is back in hand. 9.8 beauty!

 

Had to pull that up in the verify section and get a better look. 

Awesome

On 4/17/2024 at 1:16 PM, rexinnih said:

My Austin with remarque just shipped and should be here Friday. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. 

Take your submission number and add 001 to the end... or if you have multiple books: 001, 002, etc.

You can then pull up pics in the verify cgc certification page.

On 4/11/2024 at 6:45 PM, ShaggyB said:

And im in Grading/QC today... come on ship tomorrow

Ok we have shipment.... and its a 9.8

On 4/10/2024 at 1:30 PM, ShaggyB said:

Oh goodie, my Spider-man #7 Ramos spider-boy variant is in GEI for Slott & Ramos signing.

lets hope it keeps the 9.8

And im in Grading/QC today... come on ship tomorrow

Oh goodie, my Spider-man #7 Ramos spider-boy variant is in GEI for Slott & Ramos signing.

lets hope it keeps the 9.8

Yeah id like the claremont logo from the first one... but i submitted my wolverine to him last go round. Ah well... 

On 4/3/2024 at 6:45 PM, lollyclown said:

How would that work? Austin isn't part of the other Claremont signing AKA The Wolverine signing, and they haven't moved him into that group due to the delay. After the response I got regarding trying to get something into another signing I don't really see them doing anything but saying good luck we hope your books get back in time and send them in when you get them.

Not sure. They posted this.

my guess is you cant get austin and move to this one.... but i recall reading the highlighted