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On 4/19/2024 at 5:03 AM, Coyotemags said:

@KaileeS CS Looks like I have a few that are "9.5 Pristine"  what happens to them through the Re-Holder service?

You shouldn’t have any 9.5 Pristine graded cards. Such a grade has never existed.

On 6/2/2021 at 4:57 AM, robotur said:

What are the main reasons there is such a big difference in prices sold for PSA, BGS, SGC, CSG and others.  For example, I just purchase a 1996 SKYBOX PREMIUM ROOKIE #55 Kobe Bryant Rookie Card PSA for $250 but I also got a SGC 9 of the same card for $110. 

 

I realize this is a nearly three year old post, but no one really addressed the basic issue:

PSA 9 is one step below the highest grade of PSA 10.

SGC 9 is three steps below the highest grade of SGC 10 Pristine.

The problem with this (and similarly for CSG/CGC/BGS) is that a PSA 9 will always hold more value than a 9 of the other grading companies, since it’s the second best grade. In fact, a PSA 9 likely holds a premium value over 9.5s of the other companies, as well.

On 3/25/2024 at 10:23 AM, JuliaJ CS said:

Hello @northkorea,

Thanks for reaching out to us. The population report data and online resources are updated automatically when a card is submitted for reholder for a label update. We are working continuously to ensure our population report data is accurate and updated and will continue our efforts to provide accurate information. Thanks again for reaching out and please let us know if we may assist you in the future!

All the best to you, 

This is absolutely false. I have cards that I know for a fact are double counted in the pop report.

Currently, the pop report has gross amounts of double counting from the green to black to CGC-sports label swaps. Please go through the swaps and remove the cards that were green label (or any other label color) that were “upgraded” to newer label versions.

On 9/1/2023 at 9:46 AM, UncleTed said:

Welp. sent in my next batch for relabel    another 870 bucks added to the costs of this stuff.    Last batch came back fine so I have some faith from that aspect.  

 

I don't / didn't have any cards graded Perfect 10.     Wasn't that just a thing on the non sports TCG side ?   If the Perfect 10 was available for sports cards on the old CSG side.. i failed miserably at getting a single one. 

Yes. Perfect was a grade throughout CSG’s existence.

On 8/30/2023 at 10:15 AM, Junk Wax Addict said:

I believe it means service unavailable, but am not home at the moment to look.  I do believe it was graded, but then didn’t fit their holders in the end.  Not sure why some are apparently getting graded and encased but mine didn’t.  Perhaps they barely fit and there is some variance in the size of each coin, but no one has explained the real reason to me!

I agree it was graded, as I’ve never had an actual label included with my returned ungraded subs… just that post it sheet.

On 6/28/2023 at 8:49 AM, CGCRyan said:

A submitter can request that CSG print “Authentic” in the grade box instead of a numeric grade as long as the card is authentic and not altered. The Authentic designation will also be used if a card is below the minimum size requirements.

That’s not what OP was asking.

OP wants to be able to request min grade 8, but have the card be slabbed as “authentic” if it falls below that, as opposed to being returned ungraded. He wants to proverbially “have his cake and eat it too.”

If CSG ever did anything like that, I feel it would destroy trust in the brand.

On 8/28/2023 at 4:32 AM, FusionXA said:

Appreciate it. Will continue to wait or have Conti work his magic for me  Have a great day Crystal. 

Out of curiosity, why not call him Nick?

What does grade SU mean? Does it stand for status unavailable?

I wonder if they graded it, but it didn’t fit the standard holder, but was too thin for the thickest holders.

On 8/29/2023 at 12:20 PM, northkorea said:

I assume CGC will grade them, since CCG has access to NGC holders.

And, based upon Ryan’s link, I would be wrong.  

Why would CSG opt to holder the coin in the rectangle holder instead of using the actual coin holders from NGC? Does NGC grade the sport coins, too?

I assume CGC will grade them, since CCG has access to NGC holders.

Just check eBay sales history:

#12/25 sold for $2.25
#17/25 & #21/25 sold $5.50

On 8/8/2023 at 3:02 AM, Normalforce said:

The /10 Brock Purdy RPA NT S&S just sold for $15k 

I’ve been told $25-35k is the correct number. 

Why ask here if you already know?

Anyhow, the math doesn’t really hold.

#/25 versions consistently sell for ~$8k-$10k. If a #/10 sold somewhere for $15k, that would place the #/2 price closer to $17k than $25k-$35k..

Again, it seems you know your own answer, in any case.

My understanding (previously) was that CGC cards had longer serial numbers, but it seems apparent that they used the same numbers when doing your cards.

Almost always, a PSA 3 is the result of a crease. As for why people use PSA: registry.

On 8/21/2023 at 10:17 AM, UncleTed said:

heh heh. 

Am giving in on the situation... but just up to this final little label fiasco. One more thing here and oh man.. I might actually bail from the hobby. 

It's gunna end up costing me about $2500 for relabeling the stuff I want relabeled.  It's a complete halt to getting my pending stuff actually graded, and now trying to sell CSG stuff I don't want, will take a bit hit. Suckness.   It's like, I ain't rich dudes.   One more shot here.    I like the history of CGC with the comics etc.  Historically very reputable there I believe.   Was never a comic book dude though.  I had to get away from PSA once a card I had graded a 7... which I cracked out and resubbed, and it got a 10.   That was that.   

and !!!!  no idea if the registry set pics will update with the new pics or not.  Still has the old CSG labelled cards.  I don't want to manually take scans of all this and change the photos.. ohh man.    

MOSH 

Isn’t this just deflating? CGC decided to keep the Perfect 10 grade, after all.

On 8/26/2023 at 10:31 AM, Reimold34 said:

I thought the "perfect 10" label was going away? I just received the results of a submission. One of my cards (serial number 1401003435002  received a "perfect 10" but the picture of the card is just the regular 10. Was this a mistake? I haven't received it but it's a big deal if it has the wrong label. Please let me know what I need to do to correct this. Thanks! 

That is both funny and a sad result at the same time.

To clarify:

CSG Black 9.5 Mint+ cards will not be granted CGC Black 10 Gem Mint grades.

CSG Green/CGC Blue 9.5 Gem Mint cards will be CGC Black 10 Gem Mint grades.

On 8/21/2023 at 5:22 PM, Warner85 said:

So just to confirm. I can send in a CSG graded card and it will be reviewed? I have a green label with strong subs and I would like to see if it can get a .5 bump in grade. Just enter it as raw and the grader will for sure know what to do?

My understanding is that it will simply be regraded.

On 8/20/2023 at 6:37 AM, Junk Wax Addict said:

I checked out their cards about a week ago and ended up making an offer on 2 cards which they accepted.  Not saying I ended up getting a crazy good deal, but felt I paid a reasonable price for them.  

I didn’t see the best offer as a choice on the listings as I was scrolling.

On 8/9/2023 at 2:19 AM, TwoYewts said:

NK, I believe BamaFan is listing on eBay (bamafancards)

I finally got around to checking out their listings… VERY overpriced… like their prices are higher than I would expect people to ask for the same cards in PSA equivalent slabs.

On 8/19/2023 at 6:25 AM, UncleTed said:

All back home, safe and sound. No issues.   Unfortunately now I have another set plus extras to get relabeled !!   Well...It's just a thing now, they have to be CGC.  CSG graded labels no longer cut the mustard.    If the label changes again in the next decade, I will burn all of it !!!

Better start looking into EPA rules about fire based disposal of plastics, paper, and inks.

Oh! Stock up on some lighter fluid, too!

On 8/18/2023 at 7:02 PM, micky 8 said:

they should authenticate the ones made by the employees as long as they can discern ones from the mid 80's from ones counterfeited today 

I disagree. If cards are known to be stolen or printed beyond company defined print runs, there is always a large risk that, in the future, a way to discern a difference might be uncovered.

I recall Steve Taft discussing how specific sets and the 1986 Star cards being reprinted or outright unauthorized runs, however, you seem to be saying that employees also printed 1983-1985 cards. That is a problem, if true.

Technically, such information could cause the Star cards to be deemed unlicensed, since the employee ones would not have been accounted for in contracts.

Beyond that, the rumor used to be that someone purchased (stole?) the plates/paper/inks at auction (warehouse liquidation? dumpster dive?) and created new cards.

If Star never bothered to destroy/deface the plates and proofs, it causes authentication of legitimate issues to be more difficult.

PSA guarantees their grades. I’m not exactly certain this includes guaranteeing authenticity. For some reason, although common sense would imply it does, legally, it may not. By contrast, CSG/CGC (much like SGC when CCG owned them) financially guarantees authenticity of cards they grade. If, at some point, a way is discovered to discern official and unofficial print runs for Star, it might leave CCG open to liability that they simply don’t want their shareholders to bear.

Given Star Co issues are nearly four decades old at this point, there is no real financial incentive to accept the risk on this situation.

On 8/16/2023 at 2:02 PM, micky 8 said:

hopefully ya's reconsider in the future for reasons i mentioned below, If CGC wants to the number one grader they gotta grade the goats rookie! ha thanx for responding so fast 

Effectively, your post preceding this one quantifies why they may hesitate to authenticate. If you can’t tell *now* which cards are legit and which are the employee overrun, then CCG can’t afford to guarantee/grade the entire set.

On 5/7/2023 at 6:55 PM, RT Liquid said:

Thanks for the reply.

Why would they put it on the bottom of a wax box? It has to be from the factory, would this be titled a misprint or error   
 

I thought I had replied to this somewhere, but I think that’s cut from the TOP of the box, not the bottom. When you say “sealed deck,” do you mean some sort of blister pack that would hang? If so, those aren’t issued by Topps. Those are after market repacks.